^ gonna keep goat on the limited side. It's suited to certain styles of jackets. ok, raw fabric 40's vs post-shrink 40's, here are the key differences: s2s - same at 16.5 p2p - 1/2" total from 20 to 19 and 3/4"s - that's right at the pit seams midsection shrunk from 18 and 1/8ths to 18" flat, another 1/2" difference. This is probably closer to what some people might call the p2p, wherever you choose to measure it. The real shrinkage is vertical: front length went fron 26 to 25 and 3/8"s, so a 5/8" shrink sleeve outer length from shoulder went from 26 and 1/8th to 25.5, same 5/8"s shrinkage. This was on an XS, and shrinkage not proportional to the total measurement, btw, in other words an XL won't shrink like 2" in length, it's probably not much different from the 5/8ths, maybe 3/4 or 7/8ths. Different fabrics may shrink differently according to their weight and weave tightness though so it's something to keep in mind
From last week but figured I'd post it anyways to show how it fits. It's the original toj moto, probably would wear with 5010s or my black uniqlos instead of 5507s though. Click for zipped, sorry for the technicolor.
Wore my goat bomber yesterday in the heavy rain we had yesterday and forgot my umbrella. Didn't even darken at all. Completely and utterly waterproof. Water just falls right off.
it's the pattern - it's a square shouldered jacket, like most leather jackets are. People with big shoulders would round them out more but I made the shoulders square like that on purpose - it's kind of hard to explain but it's a plain looking piece of clothing for most part but has this slight dressiness when worn a certain way. Most of the time you wear it with a tee, then one day you decide to wear a buttonup under it, and then you realize how great the upright shoulders go with the upright collar and go with the upright, fitted midsection and long slim arms, and your (hopefully) slim upright jeans or pants, maybe some white hightops or something to add even more vertical - see the pattern there? Dior Homme did this effect really well with the black leather jackets - mine look a lot different obviously but I think it's a cool look, it really does give you a bit of height effect IMO.
No hate on Aeglus' fit, but something about the way the shoulders are on the motos bugs me. They look so square... that said, I'm looking forward to the trench.
Oh, whoa, I'm the exact opposite. One of the reason I'm not huge on Julius and to a lesser extent a lot of Rick leathers is the complete lack of structure in the shoulders. I've got rather narrow shoulders, and like has just been pointed out above, makes me look a lot more "vertical"
out of all the people I've made these jackets for, I don't recall but one or two people who I've found have notably wide shoulders for their height/weight, ie wider front shoulder span s2s than half their chest around is (which are usually almost same/same for most everyone, unless you work out and have big pecs). There was one guy, with like 17" shoulders and a 32" chest, but yeah he was just one of those Asian guys who probably could eat like 10 cheeseburgers and not gain a pound - that shit is hella Dior Homme build.