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post #16 of 76
Both have to do with sometimes unpleasant duties of one's job.

Swallowing your views on the thick black shoes has to be worse than taking a phone call on a Wednesday!

{I love the Entourage quote}
post #17 of 76
Teacher, I don't know what small town your from, but if they can be neutral on your double breasted suit but accept the green fro and Elton John's, i need to move! My kinda town!
post #18 of 76
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Originally Posted by Mr. Checks
Both have to do with sometimes unpleasant duties of one's job.

Swallowing your views on the thick black shoes has to be worse than taking a phone call on a Wednesday!

{I love the Entourage quote}

true
{I'm really looking forward to the new season in June - hoping that the writers working on Ari's dialogues can do even better than Season 2}
post #19 of 76
It's Agoura Hills, not Agora Hills. You need to know SoCal to get the full flavor of that quote.

http://www.ci.agoura-hills.ca.us/
post #20 of 76
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Originally Posted by retronotmetro
It's Agoura Hills, not Agora Hills. You need to know SoCal to get the full flavor of that quote.

http://www.ci.agoura-hills.ca.us/

I will correct my signature right away
post #21 of 76
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Originally Posted by gdl203
I will correct my signature right away

post #22 of 76
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Originally Posted by Mr. Checks
Feh, a good DB is never "out."

As the originator of the forum's most recent DB thread, I say "hell yeah!"
post #23 of 76
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Originally Posted by aybojs
I know most of its residents don't seem to recognize that this is the case, but there's actually a world that exists outside of New York (one that matters far more than New York, no less!).

Hear, hear!

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Originally Posted by odoreater
...(though there are some people who fall into certain camps - for example, the Manton camp of rule sticklers)...

Ooooo--I hate those guys...
post #24 of 76
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
In the past five years at my firm, for example, I've seen only two new associates wear them when they started work, and they both stopped after a lot of ribbing from the rest of the lawyers.


A senior Wall St. bond guy that I know switched firms and was immediately notified that his Charvet ties weren't going to cut it, that he was now at a Hermes desk. He capitulated, without delay, to their sophomoric demands in order to assimilate.


But then you have Jon Corzine, whose habit of wearing sweater vests made him the target of ridicule and taunts by his coworkers at Goldman Sachs. He ignored them and sported the look all the way up to the GS chairmanship.

I can identify with Jon Corzine.
post #25 of 76
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Originally Posted by designprofessor
Teacher, I don't know what small town your from, but if they can be neutral on your double breasted suit but accept the green fro and Elton John's, i need to move! My kinda town!

The fro is too righteous for them to touch!
post #26 of 76
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
Hi - I mostly want to say thanks for the advice I've received so far here. But over the past few days, I've perused a lot of posts, and have been suprised to find that some of the fashion expoused here seems to be far off the mark of what is actually accepted/approved in NYC. For example, it seems as though a good number of posters here wear double breasted suits. I was shocked to read this, as they are almost universally condemned in New York, especially in the Wall Street and professional setting. In the past five years at my firm, for example, I've seen only two new associates wear them when they started work, and they both stopped after a lot of ribbing from the rest of the lawyers. Just thought it was interesting in the context of what one considers fashionable and how important it is to have that match the professional standards of the day. Not trying to criticize, just giving food for thought.
I am surprised at the worry of trying to be approved by the crowd so to speak - I have always thought that we are to wear what we like and feel comfortable. Who cares what the 'firm' or world dictates??? Lead by example I say!!! Of course - I run my own business so I wear what I bloody want.
post #27 of 76
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer
I was shocked to read this, as they are almost universally condemned in New York, especially in the Wall Street and professional setting. In the past five years at my firm, for example, ... they both stopped after a lot of ribbing from the rest of the lawyers.

Umm dude... not everyone works at a law firm or bank. I don't think I speak for myself when I say the person who I would least take style cues from is a lawyer or banker. Most of those guys dress awfully boring and uniform.
post #28 of 76
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Originally Posted by odoreater
(though there are some people who fall into certain camps - for example, the Manton camp of rule sticklers)
I report, you decide!

Occasionally, people ask questions about certain sartorial traditions, which have become known here and elsewhere as "The Rules." Occasionally (less and less) I answer those questions. When I do, and even when I do not, without fail someone posts to say, "Manton is a stickler for the rules." The distinction between answering questions as to what the rules are on the one hand and endorsing and/or following those rules in every instance on the other seems to be lost on a lot of people.

Beyond this, I note that the following sentiment:

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For example, personally I would never wear a DB suit and I wouldn't recommend to anyone to wear one either.
expresses a view far more narrow and hidebound than any I have ever espoused. I wear DB all the time, and would hesitate to recommend it only to those whose career it might hurt or whose body shape is not fit for it.
post #29 of 76
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Originally Posted by Manton
I report, you decide!

Occasionally, people ask questions about certain sartorial traditions, which have become known here and elsewhere as "The Rules." Occasionally (less and less) I answer those questions. When I do, and even when I do not, without fail someone posts to say, "Manton is a stickler for the rules." The distinction between answering questions as to what the rules are on the one hand and endorsing and/or following those rules in every instance on the other seems to be lost on a lot of people.


I've noticed that you seem to be posting less frequently and I hope it is not because of a reluctance to state your opinions. I value both your knowledge of "The Rules" and your opinions. I generally have no problem distinguishing between the two and I hope you'll continue expressing yourself here and on AAAC.
post #30 of 76
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Originally Posted by Manton
I report, you decide!

Occasionally, people ask questions about certain sartorial traditions, which have become known here and elsewhere as "The Rules." Occasionally (less and less) I answer those questions. When I do, and even when I do not, without fail someone posts to say, "Manton is a stickler for the rules." The distinction between answering questions as to what the rules are on the one hand and endorsing and/or following those rules in every instance on the other seems to be lost on a lot of people.


Actually, I wasn't really referring to you as the rule stickler. I was referring to those who ask for advice on the rules and then blindly follow that advice as "rule sticklers." So, I think that we agree. Knowing the rules is one thing, but blindly following them without adding your own flair is something totally different. I wasn't trying to say that you are the leader of some group that are stickler for rules, rather that there are some people that seek your advice on the rules and then blindly follow that advice - these people would be rule sticklers.

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expresses a view far more narrow and hidebound than any I have ever espoused. I wear DB all the time, and would hesitate to recommend it only to those whose career it might hurt or whose body shape is not fit for it.

With that statement, I was only stating a personal preference. Personally I don't wear DB suits and, like I said, if someone were to ask me to recommend something to them, I would not recommend a DB suit.
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