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post #76 of 81
9/12/09 at 3:03am
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Originally Posted by Johnny_5 View Post
The reason why 95% of people who appreciate these wines actually appreciate them is because they have drank a lot wine and have learned to appreciate good wine like the ones that I mentioned. The bottom line is it takes time times to learn to like these beers. It's very rare for some average joe to pick up a six pack of a well respected craft beer and like it.

I understand where you're coming from, but I kinda disagree with this entire concept.

If I don't enjoy something, I don't enjoy it, whether we're talking beer, wine, the novels of Cormac McCarthy or the films of DW Griffith.

I might be able to understand why something is interesting or applaud the maker's ability to accomplish his vision, but that repeated exposure doesn't mean I'm going to find the experience pleasant and enjoyable.

And while I might go the repeated exposure route with something I think is worth analyzing/criticizing, beer and wine would not fall under that umbrella. (Nor the novels of Cormac McCarthy, for that matter.)
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post #77 of 81
9/12/09 at 3:29am
Don't feel bad, kiwkly. I enjoy my fine foods and exotic beers as well. However, i just can't get down with IPAs. Plenty of nice, exotic, micro, lesser known, or pretentious beers to choose from though. No real loss if you aren't an IPA guy. I mean, i can drink it fine, i just don't enjoy it that much. I probably drink more natty/keystonelight/pbr than my fancy beers just because i'm a cheap ass though . Too bad you're not in the area or i'd treat you to all the keystone light you can drink
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post #78 of 81
9/12/09 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by milosz View Post
I might be able to understand why something is interesting or applaud the maker's ability to accomplish his vision, but that repeated exposure doesn't mean I'm going to find the experience pleasant and enjoyable.
I'm pretty sure I grasp your point, but I think the difference is that you're talking about repeated exposure as if it is a punishment or an obligation. Most people who are trying to "get into" wine, craft beers, or scotch for example are going to continue to drink it and push past that initial "this is awful" phase because they want want to. The desire coupled with repeated exposure is what eventually causes them to like it.

There are certain things in food sciences that should seemingly be rejected by human taste buds. Hot peppers, unsweetened tea, coffee, etc. But we consume them because we've been told to and don't think otherwise. To me, that's what people work toward with scotch or beer. Very few people think scotch is delicious the first time they drink it, and if they were being forced to they might never find a taste for it. It is the desire, or the knowledge that it is supposed to be good that allows us to eventually develop the palate for those things.

In my screwed up opinion.
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post #79 of 81
9/15/09 at 1:58pm
I think the analogy makes sense. Bud is to say.....Dogfish IPA as a greasy Philly cheesesteak is to a peter lugers steak.

Even with taste being subjective, I don't think any one can argue that the dogfish and the peter lugers aren't superior products, but sometimes you want a bag of doritos instead of Brie. Call me trashy.
I like to drink a shitload of cheap beer occasionally because it's fun to get drunk and the epicurean experience while doing it isn't that much of a concern. It's like drinking cheap wine or whatever. you might have a preference for cheap beer, but i think it's ridiculous that the craft beer gurus will look at chugging some swill like PBR or Rolling Rock as sacreligious. Not to mention that before Prohibition, the states used to win all the world beer championships because Europeans liked the lighter styles that they were making, like PBR etc.
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post #80 of 81
9/15/09 at 1:58pm
apologize for out of context statement. I clicked on link and didnt see all the new responses.
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post #81 of 81
9/15/09 at 3:01pm
Ignore everything everyone has said, except for ScottMan, who mentioned Belgian ales. I pretty much only drink Belgian styles. It's a huge, and entirely different genre. There are entire bars (several in Chicago, I'm sure) that focus only on Belgians. Kind of like how Bordeaux is a huge and unique segment of wine, but I feel it's even more dominant vis-a-vis the beer world. Take a look at Beer Advocate's style guide. Their BeerFly directory will also help you find Belgian bars in your area. My personal favorite is Gouden Carolus Cuvee Van de Keizer but it may be hard to find. You could try Unibroue's La Fin du Monde and Trois Pistoles.
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