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post #76 of 91
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red
I am being sorely tempted by this 1930 Packard Town Sedan.

The color is awful, but that is easily enough corrected. The badly cobbled cormorant hood ornament would be replaced with a proper cormorant and a Lalique Chrysis for special occasions. The blue velvet upholstery is something I could live with if it were the car's original specs.

I really like the chrome disk wheels and the rear-mounted spare configuration, which allows the graceful sweep of the front fenders to continue uninterrupted. The lack of wide whitewalls is another plus on this car; the blackwalls give it a much more elegant presence.

I would have the car repainted in a midnight blue and would strongly consider reupholstering the interior in navy leather with velvet only on the back of the front seats and the headliner.




The eBay Packard might be a nice way to "get your foot in the door" and indulge your abiding Packard fancy.

Admittedly, while not being near the top of my list of cars to own (you would need a terabyte or a paper warehouse for that list), cars such as this Packard are still the same regarding restoration. The axiom, "In for a penny, in for a pound" is just as applicable here. At least your target car is together and running and has claimed provenance!

Have you glanced at the "orange bible" lately? http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...rsale/packard/

It seems to me that you would have plenty of resources for your project. One of many examples is this fellow. He doesn't specify what particular 1930 four-door sedan he has in pieces for parts.
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...ed/170130.html

His little list with photos is here: http://www.askthemanwhoownsone.com/

Although the old Hill and Vaughn restoration business in Santa Monica is a wraith these days, the Vaughn family name continues the tradition with sympathy to one's budget in a way that the original Hill and Vaughn were without sympathies. Glenn Vaughn offers similar and well-respected services today in Idaho. http://www.glennvaughn.com/

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post #77 of 91
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Thanks Full Canvas, this is along the lines of what I'm thinking. The price is right and I could have it shipped to the restorer who's working on my brother's cars. This one is within my means and it really speaks to me. If it could be restored for driving around and occasional shows for within $50k, I could definitely see getting it. I think that sounds like a reasonable proposition.

The only hitch is that my living in Japan doesn't allow me the freedom to inspect the car before purchase or even see it before the restoration process begins.
post #78 of 91
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According to the seller, the car was a retirement gift to a Packard factory worker who took very good care of it until his death about 20 years ago. He had the interior restored with original materials and had the car repainted in its orignial colors (I've seen worse). The odometer reads 30,267 miles.

I've reluctantly decided to let this one go, as it's just too impractical for me at this point. It's a fairly standard production Packard and not "one-of-a-kind" as the seller seems to think.
post #79 of 91
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red
. . . He had the interior restored with original materials and had the car repainted in its orignial colors . . .

Even though I am not the least bit intimate with Packard Automobiles, I find the seller's remarks about original [upholstery] materials and original [paint] colors to be mildly suspect.



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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red
. . . It's a fairly standard production Packard and not "one-of-a-kind" as the seller seems to think.

I concur. Another one will catch your fancy and it will feel "just right"! Time is on your side. Keep your eyes open and good luck in the hunt!
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post #80 of 91
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Originally Posted by Full Canvas
Even though I am not the least bit intimate with Packard Automobiles, I find the seller's remarks about original [upholstery] materials and original [paint] colors to be mildly suspect.


I concur. Another one will catch your fancy and it will feel "just right"! Time is on your side. Keep your eyes open and good luck in the hunt!

I agree about the claimed originality of the car being suspect. I'd be willing to bet that whoever repainted the car did not quite match the original shades. Probably a Packard factory worker would have had access at some point to original materials, so that claim I find more credible. I must admit that I'd feel a bit like Liberace driving a car in that color scheme with an all-velvet interior.

The silent films put out by Packard in 1930, the year of the car, put things in perspective. They are available on the Packard Club website. There, you can see sedans identical to this one being built and road tested. This is worthwhile even if you're not a Packard fan just to see how one of the best car companies of the period built its cars.

You're right, time is on my side. My unrealized losses in the market downturn of the past few weeks have exceeded the purchase price, so I'll wait until a few more years down the road to think about buying something like this. Still, it was a pretty mouth-watering temptation for a while.
post #81 of 91
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post #82 of 91
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Originally Posted by Roy
The yellow/black one is a T57, i'm not sure whether it's a Atalante or a Ventoux. As far as I know it's a straight 6 engine. So one tailpipe for each cylinder seems to be a correct assumption.

The Bugatti with the 6 tail pipes is a 57 Atalante 'Toit Ouvrant' built by the factory itself (Most Bugattis were built by coach builders on a rolling chassis) on a design of Jean Bugatti personally! It is a 8 cylinder in line, 3.3 liter with a double overhead camshaft. The 6 tailpipes do not refer to the number of cylinders but are related to ground clearance: if it would be one pipe the diameter would have to be much larger and the pipe would stick out much lower. There is one large pipe from the exhaust manifold to the silencer and six pipes from there.

Thought you'd like to know.

Kees
post #83 of 91
I love the lines of the Ferrari Dino
The only Ferrari to leave the factory senza the prancing horse, I've been informed...

(bad phone camera pic)
LL
post #84 of 91
There's only two cars I've ever really wanted: Datsun 240Z I have a 1970 Datsun 240Z sitting in the garage that's waiting for a new paint job and engine rebuild. Here's what it will look like someday: Jaguar E-type convertible The E-type convertible is, in my humble opinion, the sexiest and sleekest car ever made. Beautiful, elegant, charismatic and powerful.
post #85 of 91
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Originally Posted by Oldboy
Jaguar E-type convertible
The E-type convertible is, in my humble opinion, the sexiest and sleekest car ever made. Beautiful, elegant, charismatic and powerful.

You probably won't hear much argument on that point, though for my part I prefer earlier models to the one you have pictured.
post #86 of 91
1954 Cadillac Pininfarina Cabriolet I've always loved the short-lived Continental Mark II as well, especially in a duo-tone:
post #87 of 91
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The Allard J2X was equipped with a Cadillac engine.

post #88 of 91
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Originally Posted by LabelKing

1954 Cadillac Pininfarina Cabriolet


labelking,

that is probably the sweetest pininfarina design i've ever seen! beautiful!!
post #89 of 91
True, that is a heck of a Caddy. I would like to have one of these in the stable someday: '57 Studebaker Golden Hawk Sweet E-Type above, too! I am very partial to the Series III E's with the 5.3L V-12. Funny thing is that I generally do not like convertibles, but I only like that car as a convertible. Regards, Huntsman
post #90 of 91
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Studebaker was originally a company that made horse buggies and coaches, and then made the transition to automobile manufacturer. During the time they were in business, they must have put out a great many models.

The two cars the name Studebaker always brings to mind for me are the Hawk series and the Avanti.
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