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So, my wife and I have been in the process of trying to purchase a house for the last month. We found a house that is perfect for us: it's relatively new, it's in immaculate condition, it has all the space we'll need as we have kids during the rest of residency, etc. We made an offer and negotiated to what we think is a very fair price.

For our mortgage we've been working with a regional bank that offers doctor's loans (100% financing to resident physicians). There are several other banks around that offer these loans. So we submitted all of our paperwork and our loan was approved. We had the home inspection and the inspector found nothing more than three missing shingles and one bad seal on a window, all of which have since been taken care of by the sellers.

The next step was the appraisal. The appraisal came in substantially lower than the negotiated price. Having looked at a good number of other houses in the area I am convinced that this appraisal is wildly inaccurate. Other houses that we've looked at for as much as $15,000 more are 30-40 years older and smaller, with lower quality finishing. We've talked with the seller and they're at the point that they absolutely cannot afford to go any lower than the current negotiated price and if this sale doesn't go through they're going to take their house off the market for a while.

My realtor looked at the appraisal and found some local comps that had been missed and submitted them for consideration. The appraiser said he would not consider changing the original valuation. Also, my realtor has spoken with other five other appraisers who are certain that this appraisal drastically undervalued the property. Short of going to another bank and hoping for a different appraisal next time (which the sellers have agreed to pay for), what is to be done? I've spoken with the mortgage broker I've been working with and he's unwilling to consider a new appraisal. Is there likely any benefit to going to his boss and explaining that I'm going to pursue a mortgage with other banks and that if they are interested in doing this deal they need to consider ordering a second appraisal?

Thanks, H_S.
post #2 of 16
I don't have an answer for you, but I do wish you and your wife the very best as you try to work this out.
post #3 of 16
The appraisal process is completely f-ed up nowadays. Under the rules we're living with today, neither bankers nor real estate agents are permitted to speak directly with appraisals for fear there might be some kind of collusion going on. An additional complication is that appraisers are being called into markets that they're not familiar with, so they're coming up with all sorts of irregular comparables. Talk to your mortgage broker and tell him what the other five appraisers told the real estate agent. Or, unfortunately, go look for another house. (Sorry.)
post #4 of 16
Unortunately no advice here but I empathize with you. I just bought my first home and know what its like finding the perfect house and there being roadblocks to getting it.

DL
post #5 of 16
If you know you can get the resident loan through other banks in the area, aside from the slight delay in getting re-approved, what's the problem with taking your case directly to the bank and threatening to walk?
post #6 of 16
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If you know you can get the resident loan through other banks in the area, aside from the slight delay in getting re-approved, what's the problem with taking your case directly to the bank and threatening to walk?

Yeah. Seriously, I don't see why this is a huge problem. We were preapproved at more than one place (we shopped around to see who would give us the best rates, closing costs, etc...) Is there anything barring you from just walking out and getting another loan?
post #7 of 16
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If you know you can get the resident loan through other banks in the area, aside from the slight delay in getting re-approved, what's the problem with taking your case directly to the bank and threatening to walk?

+1. It wasnt a problem for you to get pre-approval so it shouldnt be a big deal to get it somewhere else. Give this first bank a polite but firm ultimatum. Pursue approval through another bank while they are considering your request.
post #8 of 16
The appraisal industry is b.s. and is not subject to any meaningful regulation. What you propose sounds reasonable, and while I don't have specific experience, I don't see how it can hurt seeing as you won't be getting a loan if you don't take some action.
post #9 of 16
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If you know you can get the resident loan through other banks in the area, aside from the slight delay in getting re-approved, what's the problem with taking your case directly to the bank and threatening to walk?
This bank has lower interest rates than the others. About half to three quarters of a point lower.
post #10 of 16
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This bank has lower interest rates than the others. About half to three quarters of a point lower.

If you can't get the house with this bank, due to the appraisal, what good is this low interest rate? Looks like your decision is to not buy the house or look at a bank with a lightly higher interest rate.

I feel your pain though. I'm not going to sleep easy until we get our construction financing next year. I'm also afraid an appraiser will screw us up with the appraisal.
post #11 of 16
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If you can't get the house with this bank, due to the appraisal, what good is this low interest rate? Looks like your decision is to not buy the house or look at a bank with a lightly higher interest rate.
I'm hoping to find a way to salvage this deal with this bank. Unfortunately, I'm not optimistic.
post #12 of 16
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This bank has lower interest rates than the others. About half to three quarters of a point lower.
Have you shopped anywhere outside your local market banks? Do MD's have a credit union? How about an online bank?
post #13 of 16
forgive my ignorance, but see if the bank would take a privately done appraisal for consideration?
post #14 of 16
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This bank has lower interest rates than the others. About half to three quarters of a point lower.

Then figure out whether that's worth financing through other means the difference between the appraisal value and the sale price in order to do the deal with this bank. If you don't have cash, perhaps another source of debt (LoC...) will give you a better return than a higher interest rate and 100% financing with another bank.
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