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I have acquired the Holy Grail of live jazz

post #1 of 25
9/3/09 at 2:20am
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I've listened to about 50% of the tracks from this set for a while now (crappy mp3s) so you can imagine my excitement when I saw it for $25, yes $25, in FYE. 9 discs of Pepper's magnum opus. I am in heaven!
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post #2 of 25
9/3/09 at 12:15pm
Does Carol Channing know you are cheating on her?
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post #3 of 25
9/3/09 at 12:33pm
As the kids say, FAIL

The holy grail of live jazz were the Dean Bennedetti(sp?) recordings of every live solo taken by Charlie Parker during three historical engagements in 1947 when Bird was at his peak. Box is available from Mosaic....

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinf...mber=129-MD-CD
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post #4 of 25
9/3/09 at 1:56pm
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As the kids say, FAIL

The holy grail of live jazz were the Dean Bennedetti(sp?) recordings of every live solo taken by Charlie Parker during three historical engagements in 1947 when Bird was at his peak. Box is available from Mosaic....

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinf...mber=129-MD-CD

Agreed. Plus, I'd add Art Blakey with Clifford Brown and Horace Silver's A Night at Birdland, the newly discovered Monk and Coltrane concert at Town Hall (?), the Coltrane/Dolphy quintet at Birdland, Duke at Fargo 1940 (yes, the great orchestra with Jimmy Blanton on bass and Ben Webster on tenor saxophone live at a North Dakota dance hall - one of the few live recordings of this magnificent ensemble)...
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post #5 of 25
9/3/09 at 4:04pm
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As the kids say, FAIL The holy grail of live jazz were the Dean Bennedetti(sp?) recordings of every live solo taken by Charlie Parker during three historical engagements in 1947 when Bird was at his peak. Box is available from Mosaic.... http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinf...mber=129-MD-CD
Do you know Parker's infamous cut of Lover Man? He was so drunk that a couple of guys had to prop him up. Still, he played like no other.
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post #6 of 25
9/3/09 at 4:05pm
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Does Carol Channing know you are cheating on her?
Don't worry, my Hello, Dolly! cast recording is never far off.
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post #7 of 25
9/3/09 at 4:16pm
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As the kids say, FAIL

The holy grail of live jazz were the Dean Bennedetti(sp?) recordings of every live solo taken by Charlie Parker during three historical engagements in 1947 when Bird was at his peak. Box is available from Mosaic....

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinf...mber=129-MD-CD

+1.

I have a nice Mosaic LP box of Pepper's Pacific Jazz series. The new Pepper SACDs are very good too but are getting hard to find. Art Pepper + 11 is terrific.
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post #8 of 25
9/3/09 at 4:18pm
The holy grail? Mm...no.
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post #9 of 25
9/3/09 at 11:35pm
If it's a holy grail, I'd expect it to be one of those privately pressed vinyl editions that people speak of in vaunted tones on snobby, nerdy forums.
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post #10 of 25
9/4/09 at 6:39am
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Agreed. Plus, I'd add Art Blakey with Clifford Brown and Horace Silver's A Night at Birdland, the newly discovered Monk and Coltrane concert at Town Hall (?), the Coltrane/Dolphy quintet at Birdland, Duke at Fargo 1940 (yes, the great orchestra with Jimmy Blanton on bass and Ben Webster on tenor saxophone live at a North Dakota dance hall - one of the few live recordings of this magnificent ensemble)...
Yep, I'm with you. You just named some of my favorite records. The version of A Night in Tunisia on Live at Birdland is one of the best. How bout a big hand there, for Art Blakey!
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post #11 of 25
9/4/09 at 11:01am
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If it's a holy grail, I'd expect it to be one of those privately pressed vinyl editions that people speak of in vaunted tones on snobby, nerdy forums.



You just summed up Audio Asylum.
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post #12 of 25
9/4/09 at 11:40am
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Yep, I'm with you. You just named some of my favorite records. The version of A Night in Tunisia on Live at Birdland is one of the best.

How bout a big hand there, for Art Blakey!

"I was on one of 'dem records...that I DUG down at Boid-land!"

I love Pee Wee Marquette's introduction...eleven years later he's heard at the very beginning of Ugetsu, with Art Blakey, Freddie Hubbard, Wayne - f'ing - Shorter, Curtis Fuller, Reggie Workman and Cedar Walton...you can hear him say, "Aaaat Blaakey, and hizzz Jah-zzz Messen'grs!". I have to add that Riverside album to my list of live jazz classics - this was the greatest band "Buhaina" ever assembled and the tunes are among my favorites - Wayne Shorters "One by One" and "On the Ginza", Curtiss Fuller's "Time Off" and Cedar Walton's "Ping Pong" and "Ugetsu" (a heartbreakingly beautiful performance that makes you realize how great Hub truly was, and how much we miss Curtis' playing now that he's had half his lung removed). I surmise from the track titles (and the titles on the other Riverside discs from that period such as Kyoto, that the band had been gigging in Japan).
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post #13 of 25
9/4/09 at 11:57am
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Do you know Parker's infamous cut of Lover Man? He was so drunk that a couple of guys had to prop him up. Still, he played like no other.


He wasn't exactly drunk...



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"I was on one of 'dem records...that I DUG down at Boid-land!"

I love Pee Wee Marquette's introduction...eleven years later he's heard at the very beginning of Ugetsu, with Art Blakey, Freddie Hubbard, Wayne - f'ing - Shorter, Curtis Fuller, Reggie Workman and Cedar Walton...you can hear him say, "Aaaat Blaakey, and hizzz Jah-zzz Messen'grs!". I have to add that Riverside album to my list of live jazz classics - this was the greatest band "Buhaina" ever assembled and the tunes are among my favorites - Wayne Shorters "One by One" and "On the Ginza", Curtiss Fuller's "Time Off" and Cedar Walton's "Ping Pong" and "Ugetsu" (a heartbreakingly beautiful performance that makes you realize how great Hub truly was, and how much we miss Curtis' playing now that he's had half his lung removed). I surmise from the track titles (and the titles on the other Riverside discs from that period such as Kyoto, that the band had been gigging in Japan).


Just ordered a copy.
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post #14 of 25
9/4/09 at 1:55pm
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He wasn't exactly drunk...





Just ordered a copy.


You will love Ugetsu.

Bird may actually have been drunk for the notorious "Lover Man" session - apparently he couldn't find his Los Angeles heroin dealer Emery "Moose the Mooche" Byrd, so he just drunk a fifth of whiskey to compensate, and he was suffering from both drunkeness and withdrawal. After the session, he went back to his fleabag hotel and lit his mattress on fire. That's how Parker ended-up "relaxing at Camarillo", so to speak. The whole story is in this excellent book, which has detailed musical analyses: http://books.google.com/books?id=yuu...parker&f=false
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post #15 of 25
9/4/09 at 6:33pm
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You will love Ugetsu.

Bird may actually have been drunk for the notorious "Lover Man" session - apparently he couldn't find his Los Angeles heroin dealer Emery "Moose the Mooche" Byrd, so he just drunk a fifth of whiskey to compensate, and he was suffering from both drunkeness and withdrawal. After the session, he went back to his fleabag hotel and lit his mattress on fire. That's how Parker ended-up "relaxing at Camarillo", so to speak. The whole story is in this excellent book, which has detailed musical analyses: http://books.google.com/books?id=yuu...parker&f=false




Good read. Will have to pick up a copy eventually. I remember reading on some linear notes that bird was just high as a kite for the recording, maybe I misread.
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