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post #46 of 51
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Originally Posted by Get Smart
true, but then you can have 3 guys wearing suits/tie and look completely different from one another, showing that the 3 suited guys have zero in common, socially. Whether or not anyone admits it, EVERYONE belongs to a social tribe of some sort. Even those who choose not to be "fashionable" are engaging in a fashion of sorts.

I agree, but I think that a greater fraction of men are more comfortable in jeans and tees, and wear suits and ties only because their work requires it, so the suit and tie is a uniform, rather than an expression of personality. They couldn't care less, and it shows. On the other hand, they would wear jeans and tees given the choice, and so their choices in those articles show their personalities more. There are, of course, many exceptions to the rule (many of them on this board.)
post #47 of 51
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Originally Posted by LA Guy
I disagree. In fact, I would say that something simple and universally worn like a t-shirt and jeans, and which the majority of men are comfortable in, comunicates extremely effectively. The fit and brand of the jeans, the fit of the t-shirt and any graphics or embellishments on it, are much more likely to communicate someone's personality than, say, a suit and tie, which I would say the majority of men feel is a sort of costume.

A guy in a relaxed fit plain tee and GAP jeans, a guy in embellished Diesel jeans and a tight ASOS tee, and a guy in a fitted Jil Sander tee and raw, slim jeans clearly belong to different "social tribes" and espouse different aesthetics.

Hello,

If a suit and tie is treated as uniform, then it probably will be less telling than t-shirt and jeans.

T-shirt and jeans, however, are for most men "casual" in the sense of being convenient. Whatever is available at Wal-mart, whatever items in the closet are clean. T-shirt colors usually are bland and any designs muted.

If very loose or tight, the fit of jeans communicates a lot. That is also true of t-shirts.

Designer versus non-designer also sends messages.

Many other clothing messages are not obvious to the average man. A problem with casual wear is semiotic "effectiveness." For example, it seldom communicates above-average intelligence or power.

For maximum communication, there are outfits that are neither casual nor business uniform.
post #48 of 51
Part of the underlying focus of this board is rejecting the notion that t-shirts are comfortable and convenient. Wear everything you have like it was made to be worn that way. If it's torn up, old, if it's got short sleeves or long... Take the same item and wear it on two different days with different functions in mind, yet still wear it effectively to show you put that get-up on purposefully. The greatest and most difficult part is finding something that is uniquely your own, accepting and taking advantage of your imperfections and your old junk. Some people are afraid of wearing certain styles because they don't feel comfortable in something so different from their normal method of fashion. I saw a dude who worked at Barney's LA who was wearing a tight-ass waistcoat and dress trousers in trad colors, but he looked so self-conscious it was awful. A testament of wearing expensive and trendy clothing but not being able to pull it off.
post #49 of 51
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Originally Posted by mensimageconsultant.com
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Many other clothing messages are not obvious to the average man. A problem with casual wear is semiotic "effectiveness." For example, it seldom communicates above-average intelligence or power.

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It also seldom communicates arrogance, egotism or a sense of entitlement.
post #50 of 51
it's nice to hear ideas different than our own. for some circunstances there can be things better than t-shirt and denim, but they are good for everyday, relaxed environment.
post #51 of 51
For some people, "I wear what I like" means "I wear what I'm used to and am afraid to change." As a rule, style change for men works best as a gradual process. The stereotypical American male style of t-shirt and jeans is easily tweaked.
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