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post #16 of 20
Glad you guys were able to straighten things out amicably on this thread. Nautica polos are made off shore, so I choose not to buy them. However as we discussed (exhaustively.?) in the Jantzen thread this is my own personal choice, and certainly not one I expect everyone to make. Did own a couple in the past, liked them, and they wore reasonably well. Hermes, what's the title of the Ralph Lauren book? I'd be really interested in reading it.
post #17 of 20
Steve B., the book is called "Genuine Authentic: The Real Life of Ralph Lauren". I haven't read it yet, but hope too. Also, the author was on All Things Considered (on NPR) a couple of weeks ago, and I believe that conversation is archived on NPR's website. It was an interesting piece because in one way I gained a lot of respect for Mr. Lauren (coming from poverty, his motivations), but on the other hand it kind of makes him look like a man with the world's lowest self-esteem.  The author of the book mentions, if I recall correctly, something about Mr. Lauren playing dress-up in his ads (the one's where he's a race car driver, a cowboy, etc).  Back to the thread:  I too have a nice Nautica tie--dark blue with small light blue polka dots. Very nice, very nice indeed.  Bought it about three years ago at one of those cheaper stores--can't remember the name. Like a Marshalls, but it wasn't Marshalls.
post #18 of 20
the ralph lauren book is called Genuine Authentic: The Real Life of Ralph Lauren and is by Michael Gross, just recently released in the last week here is a press blurb from the publisher from the book release: From the Publisher Everyone knows the name Ralph Lauren. Many people know that he was born Ralphie Lifshitz. But not even Lauren himself knows the extra-ordinary history of his ancestry. And until now, no one really knew how this pint-size nebbish rose from the Jewish ghetto of the Bronx and turned himself from a yarmulke-topped yeshiva boy into the world's leading purveyor of old-money-WASP style. Genuine Authentic is that story. Horatio Alger, step aside. Lauren, the descendant of generations of eastern European rabbis, is the embodiment of modern ambition. He stands as a symbol of the awesome rewards of self-invention -- and not just because he turned a talent for designing ties into a ten-billion-dollar international business. He also demonstrates how precarious success is, how hard a road life can be even for the driven. Lauren is considered by many to be a phony and a copycat. Yet even though he made up his name and nearly went bankrupt trying to live up to it, he can't be dismissed as a mere fake. His products have revolutionized the way almost everything is sold and the way great brands are built. Like Henry Ford and Walt Disney, he's also a real American authentic. And his business is a stunning American success. There are at least two Ralph Laurens. To the public he's a gentle, modest, yet secure and purposeful man. Inside the walls of Polo Ralph Lauren, though, he's seen by some as a narcissist, an insecure ditherer, and at times a rampaging tyrant. Michael Gross, author of the bestseller Model, lays bare the truths of this fashion emperor's rise, and reveals not only the secrets of his stunning success in marketing our shared fantasies but also the darker side that's hidden behind the shiny patrician image. Gross uncovers the essence of Lauren's carefully cultivated mystique: how he has turned his back on his own surprisingly aristocratic heritage to embrace another, more commercially viable, one; how he's built an image of luxury and wealth on a foundation of almost anonymous commodities, basic items of clothing like polo shirts and khaki pants, sold mostly in low-priced outlets, and seen everywhere from the subway to the world stage. It wasn't easy. Along the way, Lauren conquered self-doubt and survived business reverses, even several brushes with bankruptcy. Genuine Authentic follows Lauren through an unhappy childhood and confused adolescence -- torn between an immigrant culture and his material desires -- to fame as a gray-haired thirty-something, and, finally, to the man he is today. In recent years, after surviving brain tumor surgery, Lauren suffered from a massive midlife crisis, finding solace with a beautiful blond model. He survived that, too, and in the nineties took his company public, making him a billionaire but creating a whole new set of challenges to confront, new horizons to conquer, starting with Wall Street, and then on to the rest of the world. Phony? Or the real thing? It's all here. You decide. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- About the Author Michael Gross, the bestselling author of Model: The Ugly Business of Beautiful Women and My Generation, writes "The Word" in New York's Daily News and is a contributing editor for Travel & Leisure. His articles have appeared in magazines and newspapers throughout the world, including the New York Times, New York, GQ, Esquire, and Vanity Fair. He lives in New York City.
post #19 of 20
Hermes, SCB: Thanks for the info.
post #20 of 20
I had to respond to this post. I was in a Zegna store the other day browsing in the suit section (who was I kidding -- I'm not paying retail for that.). I had on a striped point collar shirt from Nautica on. I picked it up for $15 at Macy's. Now, it's a really freaking cool shirt, let me tell you. And the fabric is really soft -- it's labeled as their "Compact Cotton." The sales guy from Zegna -- who of course was outfitted in a sweet Zegna 3-button -- asked me if I needed any help. I said I was just browsing for suits and ties. He was very nice and said he'd be right there if I had any questions. He then said, "I like your shirt" and walked away. So that's throwing some props out to Nautica.
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