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why the sudden surge of futbol in the u.s.?

post #1 of 57
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i'm curious what you guys think of this. when i came here about 20 years ago, futbol was virtually a non-entity in this country, at least among the native-born americans. i was 12 years-old and the boys on my soccer team did not know there was such a thing as professional soccer. in fact, i recall that when certain adults asked me what i wanted to be when i grew up, and i answered 'soccer player', they thought that i meant playing in the world cup. they did not know there were professional leagues.

when we wanted to watch the championship matches of the mexican league, we had to pay $20 to watch the games at a bar, from a satellite dish. there was no soccer on television except for the spanish channels which showed 1 or 2 mexican league games and 1 spanish or italian league match, often a taped game that had occurred during the week.

during the world cup in 1990 i walked into a restaurant and asked if they would put the t.v. on the uruguay v. belgium match, and i received scowls and dirty looks from everyone. they were watching the bob hope classic golf tourney!

anyway i could go on and on with examples of how soccer was dismissed in the u.s. from the time i got here until now. even when i first joined this forum, i started a couple of futbol threads and they didn't last one page without derailing into a "soccer sucks, americans will never embrace" it thread.

all of a sudden, all my american friends who couldn't care less about the sport are asking me about messi and ronaldo and kaká. i hear news stories on the radio about record transfer fees (as though there weren't record fees in the past?) and just last night, while eating at koo koo roo, i noticed they were showing highlights of the manchester match on espn, AND they were advertising that they would be showing an italian league match. AND apparently it is now common practice for them to show soccer scores on that little ticker running across the bottom of the screen.

so what gives? why now? why not 20 years ago? why is it suddenly acceptable to be a futbol fan in this country where before you'd be afraid to walk into a bar and ask them to put on the game?
post #2 of 57
futbol fever is sweeping America!!!!
post #3 of 57
I think it started with people in your generation starting youth soccer leagues. As these kids grew older, obviously they were going to have more of an interest in the sport than their parents who were entirely uninterested.
As much as he sucked it up in MLS, getting a huge soccer name like Beckham in America has helped a bit in the last few years, coupled with recent success on an international level, has made the sport more interesting to the regular brahs.
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futbol fever is sweeping America!!!!

you only clicked on this thread so you could stare at my boobs!
post #5 of 57
Part of it may have to do with the fact that the USA didn't qualify for the World Cup for a long time until 1990.
post #6 of 57
I've always thought this was something ESPN was pushing. I know no one who actually gives a crap about soccer other than their kid's league or something.
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you only clicked on this thread so you could stare at my boobs!

yes you are correct Who is that, she has an amazing pair of eyes.



On topic though, seriously, you think there is a surge in soccer interest in the US?? I would say the opposite, when the US was playing in some championship (World Cup, Olympics or some crap) there was a lot of interest. Some dude named Donovan something was the star, then it died. Then when Beckham came here there was interest for a few weeks. Now we are back to normal, which means that most people, save some transplanted Europeans/South Americans, don't really care.
post #8 of 57
i'd rather watch ms than mls
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yes you are correct Who is that, she has an amazing pair of eyes. some english chick. no one famous. On topic though, seriously, you think there is a surge in soccer interest in the US?? I would say the opposite, when the US was playing in some championship (World Cup, Olympics or some crap) there was a lot of interest. Some dude named Donovan something was the star, then it died. Then when Beckham came here there was interest for a few weeks. Now we are back to normal, which means that most people, save some transplanted Europeans/South Americans, don't really care.
even if most americans don't care, there is obviously some money being poured into marketing the sport all of a sudden. i only have anecdotal evidence, but the mere fact that americans actually know about professional soccer is a huge leap compared to just a few years ago. i was at fox studios the other day and they had large banners advertising the uefa champion's league matches that will be shown on fox sports. and as i said before, american friends and acquaintances who never cared for soccer are suddenly asking me about what i think of certain players and teams. i also see signs outside of bars lately advertising that they show english premier league. i don't have a t.v. so i'm slow to pick up on trends, but the fact that i saw soccer scores running across the bottom of the screen during espn news was a revelation. 10 or 20 years ago i would never have imagined it, so i'm wondering, why now?
post #10 of 57
Who cares why now? Be glad soccer is making some headway on the large-scale American sports coverage/advertising scene. Some serious crowds showed up to watch Chelsea, AC Milan & Inter Milan when they came to the USA, & thats a great thing. Besides, its not like no born & bred Americans have ever cared about soccer until Beckham came to America or USA beat Spain in the Confederation Cup or some such. Soccer may be the most popular of the intramural sports at my university, has been for years. My views may be a little biased because my friends & I play soccer, but its not, and hasn't been the nonentity you describe. At least not when I was growing up (22), and I live in the southeast, heart of SEC football mania.
post #11 of 57
Soccer is great on the highlight reel...
post #12 of 57
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Originally Posted by thekunk07 View Post
i'd rather watch ms than mls

Thanks.

In all seriousness, I have not seen this phenomenon happening. Soccer has been gradually gaining some following, especially in the MLS era. With the internet becoming a more and more widespread method of following news and sports, soccer is becoming more and more easily accessible to Americans, whereas before the US media shepherded people to only the Big 3.5 (bball, baseball, football, hockey).

So a few factors really: MLS, growing awareness of the sport overseas, and the Beckham factor, although that has proven to not be as powerful as some thought it would. I have not seen an explosion or sudden surge at all, but I do think over the last 15 years it has slowly but surely gained popularity.
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Who cares why now? Be glad soccer is making some headway on the large-scale American sports coverage/advertising scene. Some serious crowds showed up to watch Chelsea, AC Milan & Inter Milan when they came to the USA, & thats a great thing. Besides, its not like no born & bred Americans have ever cared about soccer until Beckham came to America or USA beat Spain in the Confederation Cup or some such. Soccer may be the most popular of the intramural sports at my university, has been for years. My views may be a little biased because my friends & I play soccer, but its not, and hasn't been the nonentity you describe. At least not when I was growing up (22), and I live in the southeast, heart of SEC football mania.
that's my point. 20 years ago, whoever won the world championship match in tokyo would then fly to l.a. to play against guadalajara (or sometimes a different mexican team). the only people who showed up to the game were foreigners. not only did americans not show up, but the result of the game was not even mentioned on the television news or in the l.a. times. today, if the world champ (currently milan) showed up to play at the coliseum the stadium would be packed with americans. did you see the crowd that was at the rose bowl for the galaxy/barcelona match? 92k people and many of them americans rooting for barcelona.
post #14 of 57
i think think there is some serious upstart stuff happenign. The MLS will never crack the top 5 of US sports, but I REALLY think people can appreciate the pro ranks - premier, la liga, bundes, etc..

1. Professional top-tier teams are coming to the US. The galaxy vs barcelona sold out the rose bowl 3 weeks ago, 90k seats. Thats not a fluke. This was for an exhibition game. Ive seen Chelsea and Real Madrid in the US and when you see it in person you can tell the difference.

2. Its a superstar based league. Kind of like basketball. A lot of people know of ronaldo, kaka, henry, messi, et al. They are the franchise face and its easy to relate.

3. The games are easy to watch. No commercials, less than 2 hours. You know what to expect.

4. The live atmosphere cant be touched anywhere else but maybe college football.


While it may never be one of the top 3 professional sports and still behind colelge basket and football, its ahead of hockey. At least 6th most popular.
post #15 of 57
Being in a championship will piques some interest. Like have a dog in a fight.
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