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post #31 of 117
4/13/06 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
If I had to drive a modern four door, I guess I'd take a Subaru WRX or Mitsu Evo MR, because those seem to be the only two large cars offered in America that actually want to be driven, instead of merely serving as expensive and monumentally dull transportation appliances like most moderns. The only wildcard would be one sedan I've never seen, let alone driven: the new Citroën C6.

The Audi RS4 is a car that wants to be driven:



Jon.
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post #32 of 117
4/13/06 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red
I could have sworn he was trying to make cars into representations of kitchen utensils, namely meat tenderizers and potato mashers.

No, he has said that he was trying to base his cars on architecture. Which is dumb, because well, buildings aren't often a sign of the times, cars (and fashion) are. The buildings can't reflect like cars can.

Jon.
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post #33 of 117
4/13/06 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
The Audi RS4 is a car that wants to be driven: Jon.
Once again, you seem to equate speed with fun. Not so, my friend, in an age when every econobox can do 0-60 in single digits (faster than many true sports cars!) can top 120mph with ease.
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post #34 of 117
4/13/06 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
Once again, you seem to equate speed with fun. Not so, my friend, in an age when every econobox can do 0-60 in single digits (faster than many true sports cars!) can top 120mph with ease.
Um, the RS4 isn’t just fun in a straight line. And what ‘econobox’ does 0-60 in the single digits? A 1.5liter diesel Kia? Jon.
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post #35 of 117
4/13/06 at 2:08pm
There are lots of modern sub supercars that are meant to be fun driving experiences, M3, RS4, Boxster, Cayman, Corvette, GTI, WRX STI, EVO, M5, MX-5, Z4, Mini, etc. There are probably more performance oriented variations today of cars than there ever has been. Those that are opposed to modern technology and design will never be satisfied.
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post #36 of 117
4/13/06 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
Which is dumb, because well, buildings aren't often a sign of the times, cars (and fashion) are.

As much as anything else built by humans, buildings are a reflection and product of their times. Buildings aren't designed in a vacuum.

--Andre
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post #37 of 117
4/13/06 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
But the A4 has the same grill as the A8…? Actually, I think the shield grill is better executed in the A4 than it is in the A8. The lights look better on the A4 than they do on the A6. What Bangle was trying to do is to make cars into representations of buildings. Instead what he should have been doing is turning cars into representations of cars. Jon.
the grille looks too prominent on the A4, imo (but i have a previous gen. A4. probably a bias of mine.) Don't care much for the A6, except for the interior which is lovely.
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post #38 of 117
4/13/06 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
Except that it isn't. And outside of rags that are to good cars what GQ is to good clothes, nobody is hailing it as anything but an expensive Italian Buick with a beautiful badge on the nose.



Did. The people who have taken over after Mays then Thomas left have done nothing remotely as attractive as the cars those two gentleman steered into fruition.


never said anything about the past. delving into the bourgeois automotive history is fine, but noone really gives a damn about citroens anymore. and that particular models not going to change that fact. i'm still not sure where you're hearing the criticsms of the Maserati from. i can understand you don't like it... unless you hate the whole 'pandering to the mass' ideal.
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post #39 of 117
4/13/06 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by Andre Yew
As much as anything else built by humans, buildings are a reflection and product of their times. Buildings aren't designed in a vacuum.

--Andre

Yes, but at a much slower pace. Cars reflect a lot more. Cars should influence buildings, more than the other way around.

Jon.
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post #40 of 117
4/13/06 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by Lamo
the grille looks too prominent on the A4,

That's the point of it.

Jon.
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post #41 of 117
4/13/06 at 8:25pm
I have seen some people who take the black bar where the license plate goes on the Audis and paint it the body color which makes the front fascia look more like the older generation Audis. I guess when it is your car you can do to it what you want.
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post #42 of 117
4/15/06 at 12:46am
A plain black Ford or Lincoln sedan with a driver.
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post #43 of 117
4/15/06 at 2:13pm
If I was buying brand new an S6 or an A8 (although the previous gen with the smaller grille is much more attractive in my opinion). Although my favourites would probably be: -A late 90's/early 00's BMW 740i Sport. Black of course with a 6 speed and 17-18" deep dish M Technics wheels. -An early-mid 90's BMW 540i in a dark colour with a 6 speed, a supercharger and a chip. -Mid 90's Mercedes e500 in slate grey. Discretion and speed is the name of the game. A. Edit>Wagons...whole other story...
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post #44 of 117
4/15/06 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by Aaron
Discretion and speed is the name of the game.

A.

Verily!
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post #45 of 117
4/15/06 at 4:04pm
If we get to modify cars, then here's my choice: late model BMW E38 7 series in black with a transplanted V8 from the E39 M5, with appropriate manual gearbox and drivetrain. Suspension is tuned as necessary. Wheels would be either the M parallels that came on the E38's sport package, or BBS RCs.

--Andre
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