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I have decided that I want to start painting.

post #1 of 52
Thread Starter 
I don't know why, maybe I'm just bored. I have little to no artistic talent whatsoever. The last art class that I've taken was in 9th grade. I don't know much about painting or the mechanics of painting, though I did take an Art History class in college. I think I know how to appreciate art, but even that's not too concrete. I do have artists that I like, I guess.

My questions are simple. What is the initial capital outlay to embark on this endeavor? I'm talking about basic brushes and paints. I'm not going to do watercolors, because I'm a man. Furthermore, I was thinking about going to flea markets and buying an old shitty painting/print that already has a frame. Then I would take the painting out and paint it white (one of my friends said to gesso(?) it, but that you'd still be able to see the painting underneath),have it dry, and then paint whatever I feel like over the top.

I would add to the painting every week or every few weeks. Just to change up my scenery every now and then without feeling too domestic.

Also for parties, I would do the same thing. I would put out a blank canvas and people could just paint whatever they feel like. Kinda like those old-school surrealist (or was it Dadaist) exercises of automatism, though invariably there's going to be penises painted on. I'd hang those around my apartment too. My new place looks naked.
post #2 of 52
this is what happens when you stop fapping
post #3 of 52
Follow your dreams!
post #4 of 52
i do 24 x 36 reductive paintings in the basement. always oils. sold a few in art school and thought i was the next bacon. wasn;t to be. now, just for my own sanity and joy.
post #5 of 52
It's a lot more technical than most people think. I've only painted models and sculptures in acrylics which, at least to me, are far easier to paint because the model provides the basis for creating texture and light sourcing through color manipulation. On a piece of canvas it's hard for me to think and portray an image with one fewer dimension, so the most I could ever really do was stuff like trees and rocks. Landscapes and anything with depth always looked off.
post #6 of 52
You should buy really fucking cheap supplies until you find out if it is a real passion or an impulse. I had an impulse to start watercolor painting a couple of years ago and I lost interest in a few weeks. I'm glad I did not make too significant of a capital outlay for it.
post #7 of 52
I would suggest using water mixable oil paints. Windsor & Newton make the standard set. They're a tad more expensive than normal oils, but you'll save money on solvents, which are tough for a beginner to use anyway. They're also much cleaner to work with. If you're just starting, I'd recommend buying some really cheap canvas boards in small sizes to get a feel of the paint. There's no need to waste a good canvas for something you're bound to screw up in the beginning anyway. Once you do get a feel for it and want to paint on canvas, use the thicker gallery wrapped canvases that are at least 1" thick. They'll be sturdier and the frames won't warp or stretch as bad. Most of the thin canvases are meant to be used for student projects anyway. In terms of brush, get quality brushes. You only need a few sizes at most, so don't buy many, but buy ones that will last. You can go broke buying shitty brushes that go bad. A good brush can last years. Kolinsky hair brushes are the best, but by no means necessary. http://www.dickblick.com/products/da...sable-brushes/ The Blick Master Series is a good alternative. http://www.dickblick.com/products/bl...istle-brushes/ Do you have any idea on what you want to paint? That might useful to help.
post #8 of 52
I second the water/oil paint. It gives you the satisfaction of oil without the fumes and mess. I have artist friends who use nothing but house paint. Seems to be common. It's cheap.
post #9 of 52
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses. So how many brushes should I look into buying? Four? And I'll try to read up on mixing colors. I'm guessing I should really only be looking at primary colors plus black and white? After looking at those links above, I could really see how this interest could fiscally get out of hand real quick. RLBL suit vs. paints+brushes+canvas????
post #10 of 52
It won't (or shouldn't) cost you nearly as much as a RPBL suit. It depends on what you're painting really. If you want to paint figurative paintings, smaller brushes are better. Brushes are measured in width and length. The more width, the more paint it carries. The longer the brush, the more "whip" the brush has which leads to smoother, elongated strokes. Flat headed brushes are more accurate for blocking out areas of color. Pointed tip (round) brushes are more precise for lines and curves. Filbert (semi-circular head) are best for textures, like the gills of a fish. Fan tip brushes are for thinner textures like grasses. You shouldn't need more than 7 or 8 total brushes and depending on what you're painting could get by with 2 or 3. A larger house brush or foam brushes can be useful for very large areas as well. Make sure you clean your brushes really well. The store will tell you what's the best for that.

In terms of colors, most art stores will have the introductory set of water mixable oil paints. There should be about 7 colors. Usually a brown, black, white, cerulean blue, bright red, forest green, and a yellow. Watch out for using too much black. You don't need nearly as much as you'd think. Say for instanced that you wanted to mix the perfect gray tone that was halfway between white and black. Logically, you'd think you'd need one part white and one part black, but in reality you'd need about 2 parts white for 1 part black. Mixing colors and managing the amount of paint you use is the hardest technical part of painting.
post #11 of 52
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post
It won't (or shouldn't) cost you nearly as much as a RPBL suit. It depends on what you're painting really. If you want to paint figurative paintings, smaller brushes are better. Brushes are measured in width and length. The more width, the more paint it carries. The longer the brush, the more "whip" the brush has which leads to smoother, elongated strokes. Flat headed brushes are more accurate for blocking out areas of color. Pointed tip (round) brushes are more precise for lines and curves. Filbert (semi-circular head) are best for textures, like the gills of a fish. Fan tip brushes are for thinner textures like grasses. You shouldn't need more than 7 or 8 total brushes and depending on what you're painting could get by with 2 or 3. A larger house brush or foam brushes can be useful for very large areas as well. Make sure you clean your brushes really well. The store will tell you what's the best for that.

In terms of colors, most art stores will have the introductory set of water mixable oil paints. There should be about 7 colors. Usually a brown, black, white, cerulean blue, bright red, forest green, and a yellow. Watch out for using too much black. You don't need nearly as much as you'd think. Say for instanced that you wanted to mix the perfect gray tone that was halfway between white and black. Logically, you'd think you'd need one part white and one part black, but in reality you'd need about 2 parts white for 1 part black. Mixing colors and managing the amount of paint you use is the hardest technical part of painting.

Thanks. This is some great information. I'm definitely going to read up the matter, but this is a wonderful start. Basically, I'm looking to paint shit like this:

post #12 of 52
I started very recently myself--bought acrylics and a few giant canvasses. I've only painted three paintings in my entire life, and they all look more or less like this (but I'm really enjoying it when I can make time to do it):

post #13 of 52
Thread Starter 
Nerdykarim, that's awesome.

I also kind of like this idea. Taking pictures of my paintings and blowing them up to poster sized prints (which can be expensive from what I hear). I figure, the paintings themselves may not be what I want it to be texturally or what I had in mind generally, but if I can take awesome pictures of them, they might actually look good. Also, since I'll be using shitty canvases to start, they'll eventually warp and shrivel up. Just in case I make something I like, I'll be able to somewhat preserve it for posterity.
post #14 of 52
That one is actually on an 8.5x11 piece of copy paper. I haven't used any of my canvasses yet. I'm planning on eventually doing something like that on a 24x36, though.
post #15 of 52
I would establish a practice. But with painting I think an educational foundation--at least technical--would bring up one's game.
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