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Memphis stripped its victories during '07-'08 season

post #1 of 33
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I just saw this on yahoo news. I want to see how this plays out since neither the coach nor the player involved is there anymore. If it's true, it would be interesting to see how the NBA will respond. I don't know the details of NCAA, but the punishment seems a little harsh.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...v=ap&type=lgns
post #2 of 33
My first reaction was that is was shitty of Rose. But when you think about it, what was he supposed to do? He can't go straight from high school to the NBA. If he's too dumb to get a high enough score on the SAT to play college ball, should he just give up on basketball? Can't imagine the NCAA minimum standards are all that high, so it seems he doesn't have much else going for him. Give him credit for at least being smart enough to pull it off.

I guess everyone down there will go ahead and pretend Calipari knew nothing about it.

Doubt the NBA will do anything to him.
post #3 of 33
God who cares? NBA wont do anything, why would they? The guy clearly was there just to play a year because of the no-straight-to-the-NBA-rule.
post #4 of 33
Mean IQ in the NBA has still got to be 10 points higher than the NFL...
post #5 of 33
This wasn't the first time for the coach, this has happened to one of his teams before. Yet, he manages to leave just in time and seemingly unscathed. Let's see how things go at Kentucky.
post #6 of 33
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Originally Posted by dcg View Post
My first reaction was that is was shitty of Rose. But when you think about it, what was he supposed to do? He can't go straight from high school to the NBA. If he's too dumb to get a high enough score on the SAT to play college ball, should he just give up on basketball? Can't imagine the NCAA minimum standards are all that high, so it seems he doesn't have much else going for him. Give him credit for at least being smart enough to pull it off.
If he really didn't want to cheat and possibly screw his teammates, coach, and school, then he could have gone to Europe and play and make money, i.e. Brandon Jennings (although he went for different reasons). It always amazes me that these guys can't score high enough for the requirement. I can't remember what the exact score that is needed, but it is something ridiculously low. Anyone who legitimately passed their classes in high school should be able to pass this and not have someone else take the test for them. I guess that's the problem.
post #7 of 33
Everyone who has followed Calipari's career for very long knows that he caters to thugs. Calipari has always been crooked and I'm sure we'll see recruiting and academic violations showing up at the U of K in a few years' time. The man has no class and he never will.
post #8 of 33
Thank goodness for Chalmers' shot. That begs the question, who did my Jayhawks beat for the national championship according to the record book?
post #9 of 33
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Originally Posted by bigasahouse View Post
If he really didn't want to cheat and possibly screw his teammates, coach, and school, then he could have gone to Europe and play and make money, i.e. Brandon Jennings (although he went for different reasons).


It always amazes me that these guys can't score high enough for the requirement. I can't remember what the exact score that is needed, but it is something ridiculously low.

Anyone who legitimately passed their classes in high school should be able to pass this and not have someone else take the test for them. I guess that's the problem.

I agree with everything you said. This was pre-Brandon Jennings, so I'm not sure if Rose even realized Europe was an option at the time.

My point was that while it was wrong of him to cheat, I don't think he should have been put in the position of having to do so. Being dumb isn't a crime, and it's obviously not preventing him from having success in the NBA. It's hard for me to view Memphis as a victim here.

It's unfortunate for his teammates to have their wins taken away. That said, I suspect I could guess their answer if you were to ask them today whether they'd prefer to have played for the national championship with Rose or tried their luck without him, regardless of whether it now counts as "official".
post #10 of 33
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Originally Posted by ArliHawk` View Post
Thank goodness for Chalmers' shot. That begs the question, who did my Jayhawks beat for the national championship according to the record book?
Good ol' mario's winning jump-shot was such an awesome finish to that game. I feel sorry for the Memphis teammates, they have had some awesome seasons in the last few years, this stains their reputation pretty badly.
post #11 of 33
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Originally Posted by dcg View Post
I agree with everything you said. This was pre-Brandon Jennings, so I'm not sure if Rose even realized Europe was an option at the time.

My point was that while it was wrong of him to cheat, I don't think he should have been put in the position of having to do so. Being dumb isn't a crime, and it's obviously not preventing him from having success in the NBA. It's hard for me to view Memphis as a victim here.

It's unfortunate for his teammates to have their wins taken away. That said, I suspect I could guess their answer if you were to ask them today whether they'd prefer to have played for the national championship with Rose or tried their luck without him, regardless of whether it now counts as "official".

That makes sense.
post #12 of 33
1. Calipari is either the dumbest mother fucker on the planet or he knew what was happening and is dirty. Calipari will walk away from his second vacated season under his watch with no consequences, which is wrong. Punishment for these coaches like him and Sampson need to follow them to the schools they bolt to or else more coaches will leave jobs to get away from the consequences of being caught.

2. The NBA needs to eliminate the one year minimum rule. It's bad for everyone involved except the players from a sponsorship standpoint. I think the biggest reason the NBA wants players to go to college is so that fans can learn about players on the college stage and follow them to the pros. Before the rule, there were too many high school players who jumped, only to sit on the end of the bench their first two seasons and fans had no idea who they were. The NBA wants these players to be marketable and the best way is by making the college fans follow their former players.

3. I don't blame Rose. I'd take handouts and cheat my way through the NCAA if I knew it was bullshit in the first place.
post #13 of 33
Lol, this is all a farce. No ones wins are "taken away". They are still going to be remembered for what they did, they will still tell the same stories to their grandkids, and they will still be runners up that year. Pretending things did not happen is a joke. It is a cute attempt by the NCAA to flex their muscles, but in the end it is utterly meaningless.
post #14 of 33
Tell that to Bobby Bowden, who lost 14 games for ineligible players , making him lose the all time career wins title to Joe Paterno.
post #15 of 33
Hey guys I need your hlep
I accidentally 38 of my wins
what should I do...is this dangerous?
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