LL Bean + Rogues Gallery = LL Bean Signature - Page 23

Sigh... Says someone who's been obsessing over quality jeans for the past 4 years and interested in jeans for as long as he can remember. I looked at Agave jeans a while back, when I was genuinely researching ANY brands of jeans I could get my hands on (and not just what is discussed here these days). Back then, my conclusion was that they weren't worth anything, and nothing has made me change my mind since then. And this is why I said what you said was a lie.

For what it's worth, I never bought a pair of Levi's. Always hated the brand, still do and probably always will. I like 45RPM a lot though, give them a try if you're so interested in Quality Denim.

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Just got my madras shirt in yesterday and whoa.... worst fit ever. I wear a large in most "american" brands (J Crew, Gap, etc), and an XL in slimmer more fashunz stuff, but I'm literally swimming in Signature' Large. Its not even a "comfortable" fit that could be pulled off, it just looks dumb. The quality of the shirt is very above average, but they shouldn't advertise this as a slimmer fit. At least LL Bean has a good returns policy.

How is the sleeve length i.e. is it possible to size down?

Is it even as slim as LL Bean mainline trim fit?

got my short sleeve shirt yesterday, and it's going back to llbean today. the fit is a joke

i honestly couldn't tell you, but its HUGE. XL jcrew stee or, maybe "and then some"

I have a medium in flap pocket tattersall, and I'm fine with the fit. I would say similar or slightly smaller than a J crew large--I'm sometimes a medium and sometimes a large in J Crew.

How is the sleeve length? Could I get a medium aswell (im a 35-36 sleeve, j crew chambray is perfect in large), or am i screwed?

Would have to measure. It's fine on me but I usually take a size 16/34 in neck/sleeve-sized shirts.

Would be great if you could do a quick measure when you have the time. No rush though...Im a 16/36 (or 35,5 ideally).
How is the bean signature "quality" otherwise? Buttons, fabric etc?

No problem. I think the arms may be short on you.

Measurements on this very shirt in medium, red/blue tattersall on cream. This is after a couple cold washes/hot dry.

Shoulder to shoulder across the yoke: 19 inches (maybe a hair under)
Pit to pit (where arm meets side seam, across the front): 22 inches (again, maybe a little less)
Arm (from center of neck, across shoulder, down outside arm seam): slightly over 34 inches

That's really an ideal everyday shirt for me, sizewise. now, for someone who usually wears a 38-40? Less likely.

The quality is straight J crew level. Fabric is good (I really like the pattern--similar to an EG shirt from a few seasons back), buttons are plastic, stitching seams clean. Collar is OK; bigger than J crew's generally. I like the BD collar on J press shirts best, I think, and this is not as nicely shaped. Pocket flap is a nice detail. This one has no third collar button, although some LLBS shirts do, I think. It has side gussets but so do almost all shirts these days--whose shirts tear there, anyway? No pattern matching at the shoulders or anything, no split yoke or other high-end shirt details.

For $60, is it a great value? No. But then neither is most J crew stuff at retail, imo.

Great breakdown, shoreman1782. Thanks for the details.

Thanks Shore!
From the measurements, an M shirt seems to be too small for me overall. Im surprised you are an L in J.crew if those measurements are perfect on you. On the good side, an L in llbean signature might fit me then.