Originally Posted by sho'nuff
let me warn you the grifters are not much looser.
Well, I want tight, the raker legs were fine. My only problem was with the rise and from the site it sounds like the grifter has a much more generous rise. I'm trying to decide whether I want to size up from 28 to 29 though... I dunno I gotta figure out some measurements tomorrow. Have you owned both? Is the grifter rise a little bit kinder? I want tight thighs but high rise... As long as I can button it, I'm golden. I am sure of that. I can squeeze into a Levi's 510 28 and American Apparel skinny jeans size 28, so I think grifter 28 should probably be fine? I know sz. 28 slim jim is fine on me, although I have a 29... Was the smallest size they had, copped, then I tried on 28 at another store and was like "oops"