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post #61 of 66
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It's well researched in the fact that they actually got the opinions of experts and doctors, and reference scholarly journals. It's a short article, what do you expect? In any case, it's much more informative than the unfounded assertions and myth propagation that usually happens when this topic is breached.

If you want more detail, go read a study instead. Here's one: http://ajpregu.physiology.org/cgi/co...ull/283/5/R993

same conclusion, with the same reservations:


"Excluded were... hot climates, and strenuous work or exercise."

This is what almost everybody knows from common sense: If its hot out, and/or you are working hard and/or exercizing hard drink more water.

I agree there are some myths but the bottom line is exactly the same. I mean these people that are telling people to drink 8 glasses of water are most likely telling them to exercize also. I look at it as a rule of thumb more than hard science.
post #62 of 66
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Originally Posted by Ge Fuzz View Post
same conclusion, with the same reservations:


"Excluded were... hot climates, and strenuous work or exercise."

This is what almost everybody knows from common sense: If its hot out, and/or you are working hard and/or exercizing hard drink more water.

I agree there are some myths but the bottom line is exactly the same. I mean these people that are telling people to drink 8 glasses of water are most likely telling them to exercize also. I look at it as a rule of thumb more than hard science.

That's not true at all. I've heard many people recommend drinking 8 glasses of water without saying anything about exercise or climate. Who's to say that we should drink 8 glasses of water even with exercise? There are people who lazily walk on treadmills at gyms and there are those that run marathons in the desert. Should both of these people shoot for 8 glasses a day? Intuitively, we should all know that water intake should really be based on activity level. We should also know that the body should have a mechanism for telling us when we should drink (it's called thirst).

You're right that all of this SHOULD be common sense. However it's obviously not since the myth is still perpetuated (hell we're talking about it now). One only needs to take a look at this thread to see the different ideas about this. In that sense, it's helpful to have links to point people without common sense to since they obviously aren't figuring it out themselves.

I still don't know what you're arguing with me about. Do you think these links aren't useful? Do you think that these links don't say anything above common sense? Because common sense only reaches the general conclusion, it won't ever get you to the figures cited and history of the myth.
post #63 of 66
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Originally Posted by turbozed View Post
That's not true at all. I've heard many people recommend drinking 8 glasses of water without saying anything about exercise or climate. Who's to say that we should drink 8 glasses of water even with exercise? There are people who lazily walk on treadmills at gyms and there are those that run marathons in the desert. Should both of these people shoot for 8 glasses a day? Intuitively, we should all know that water intake should really be based on activity level. We should also know that the body should have a mechanism for telling us when we should drink (it's called thirst).

You're right that all of this SHOULD be common sense. However it's obviously not since the myth is still perpetuated (hell we're talking about it now). One only needs to take a look at this thread to see the different ideas about this. In that sense, it's helpful to have links to point people without common sense to since they obviously aren't figuring it out themselves.

I still don't know what you're arguing with me about. Do you think these links aren't useful? Do you think that these links don't say anything above common sense? Because common sense only reaches the general conclusion, it won't ever get you to the figures cited and history of the myth.


I just don't see what the point of exposing this so-called myth. Its better people drink water than not. As far as thirst as indicator of dehydration this has been shown to not be accurate. I used to work construction and I got rhabdomyolysis from over exerting myself in the heat. I was drinking a lot of water and about 1 gallon of gatoraid before I got cold and clamy and vomited and went to the hospital, I thought I just had heat exhaustion but it was worse, also in boot camp and in fleet during humps dudes would drop out all the time and we were forced to drink plenty of water... Sometimes you do have to force yourself to drink.

Speaking of military, I was reading about how Alexander the Great had his army boil thier drinking water (some 2,000 years before Pasteur mind you) and I wonder if we can trace the 8 cups back to the Greek or Roman military? Thats probably a stretch lol


Like I said before those links do have some interesting, counterintuitive info.
post #64 of 66
For the past three months I have drank at least 3 gallons of water per 24 hour period of time. Nothing wrong with me yet, but Im also being pushed physically all the time and I intake a lot of sodium and minerals.
post #65 of 66
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Originally Posted by Ge Fuzz View Post
I just don't see what the point of exposing this so-called myth. Its better people drink water than not. As far as thirst as indicator of dehydration this has been shown to not be accurate. I used to work construction and I got rhabdomyolysis from over exerting myself in the heat. I was drinking a lot of water and about 1 gallon of gatoraid before I got cold and clamy and vomited and went to the hospital, I thought I just had heat exhaustion but it was worse, also in boot camp and in fleet during humps dudes would drop out all the time and we were forced to drink plenty of water... Sometimes you do have to force yourself to drink.

Speaking of military, I was reading about how Alexander the Great had his army boil thier drinking water (some 2,000 years before Pasteur mind you) and I wonder if we can trace the 8 cups back to the Greek or Roman military? Thats probably a stretch lol


Like I said before those links do have some interesting, counterintuitive info.

This has all the hallmarks of a bad post:

Unsubstantiated generalizations? Check.

Sample size of one (personal experience)? Check.

Using extreme examples not within the purview of the conversation (boot camp is not light exercise)? Check.

The point of exposing the so-called myth is that there are sedentary people out there carrying around huge SIGG bottles or buying Fiji water for $2.50 thinking that the more water they drink the healthier they are. Not only is the behavior unnecessary, but it's silly and costly. There are real water issues in poor countries and dehydration among Americans under normal conditions is just not a problem. This is the whole point of this thread and the cited articles/study. Under normal conditions, you DON'T have to force yourself to drink. People don't know this and it's not common sense. By citing extreme circumstances, you are just avoiding the topic and talking past my posts.
post #66 of 66
i do every day, i think you feel a whole lot better, it's great for getting all the salt from regular meals out of your system. should help with complexion as well, skin seems far less oily
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