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post #31 of 302
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Since when do Ivies offer scholarships?

They do not. I know Columbia does not. Princeton does not either.

It was regular financial aid. Or he had some kind of external scholarship.
post #32 of 302
Dan sounds like an ass. I hope Foo wins.
post #33 of 302
I once sat through a meeting my brother was having with Harvard's football coach. They way the preferential recruiting works is this (at least for football): The team is given a number of preferred admission slots at different levels of academic achievement. They calculate the latter by adding up grades and SATs (I believe that's it) to get a figure. The coach can then decide what players he wants at a certain level of academic achievement and send those in to the admissions office where they'll be allowed in. They only have a few spots for candidates that would be very marginal in the main draw (though they still have to hit decent numbers) and get a few more for each of the subsequently more accomplished levels. In order to keep competition somewhat level, Harvard, Yale and Princeton are given less of the slots that are on the lower academic end than Cornell/Brown/etc. as there is the assumption that they have more drawing power. Also, at least some of the Ivy's have really amped up their aid to the middle class (with Harvard I believe offering basically free tuition), but that would have been after this guy was in school.
post #34 of 302
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Originally Posted by Thurston View Post
Since when do Ivies offer scholarships?
Y'know, when I first read that, I did a massive double take - MFF on a basketball scholarship?!
post #35 of 302
Good luck Foo (and yet again I ask, seriously, what are you going to do with 10k of KC?)!
post #36 of 302
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Originally Posted by origenesprit View Post
Dan sounds like an ass. I hope Foo wins.

Well, to be fair, they did re-order and combine answers to make it look like some statements were volunteered rather than specifically asked for. For example, I did not, out of the blue, state that 90% of my wardrobe is bespoke. They first asked me who made my suits, shirts, etc., then asked how much they cost (which I declined to answer), and then asked me to estimate how many of my clothes are custom.
post #37 of 302
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
Well, to be fair, they did re-order and combine answers to make it look like some statements were volunteered rather than specifically asked for. For example, I did not, out of the blue, state that 90% of my wardrobe is bespoke. They first asked me who made my suits, shirts, etc., then asked how much they cost (which I declined to answer), and then asked me to estimate how many of my clothes are custom.

That is very generous of you, but I don't think re-ordering is his issue.
post #38 of 302
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Originally Posted by ohm View Post
That is very generous of you, but I don't think re-ordering is his issue.

Haha. I'm just trying not to be bitter that they put him first .
post #39 of 302
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Originally Posted by zbromer View Post
Actually, you are completely wrong. The Ivy League has a strict prohibition against providing athletic scholarships. From wikipedia, "Unlike most Division I athletic conferences, the Ivy League prohibits the granting of athletic scholarships; all scholarships awarded are need-based (financial aid)." This policy is based on the Ivy Group Agreement, which established academic, financial, and athletic standards for athletics in the Ivies. One of its major tenets is that "The members of the Group reaffirm their prohibition of athletic scholarships. Athletes shall be admitted as students and awarded financial aid only on the basis of the same academic standards and economic need as are applied to all other students." Colgate is a member of the Patriot League. The Patriot League has also had a longstanding tradition of not offering athletic scholarships either. This policy has changed in recent years; however, most of the schools in the league provide far fewer athletic scholarships than traditional Division I programs.
People might be taking this too literally, he may have received the financial aid based on hardship and prefers to think of it as a basketball scholarship because he feels self conscious about his background. Let's be charitable.
post #40 of 302
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Originally Posted by Marcus Brody View Post
I once sat through a meeting my brother was having with Harvard's football coach. They way the preferential recruiting works is this (at least for football):

The team is given a number of preferred admission slots at different levels of academic achievement. They calculate the latter by adding up grades and SATs (I believe that's it) to get a figure. The coach can then decide what players he wants at a certain level of academic achievement and send those in to the admissions office where they'll be allowed in. They only have a few spots for candidates that would be very marginal in the main draw (though they still have to hit decent numbers) and get a few more for each of the subsequently more accomplished levels. In order to keep competition somewhat level, Harvard, Yale and Princeton are given less of the slots that are on the lower academic end than Cornell/Brown/etc. as there is the assumption that they have more drawing power.

Also, at least some of the Ivy's have really amped up their aid to the middle class (with Harvard I believe offering basically free tuition), but that would have been after this guy was in school.

This essentially matches my understanding. The one exception is your final statement. I believe that all Ivies now offer grants exclusively. In other words, financial aid, while syill need-based, is never repaid. I think that Penn was the last school to go this model about a year ago.
post #41 of 302
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I think that Penn was the last school to go this model about a year ago.

Penn was last? Typical .
post #42 of 302
Wait...we get to see Foo on TV? Who's organizing the viewing party?
post #43 of 302
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Originally Posted by Thurston View Post
This essentially matches my understanding. The one exception is your final statement. I believe that all Ivies now offer grants exclusively. In other words, financial aid, while syill need-based, is never repaid. I think that Penn was the last school to go this model about a year ago.


The Ivy's are using a family income model, for example, if your family income is less than $60K, then you will not be required to borrow money as part of your financial aid package. You will receive a combination of other aid which might include grants or work-study. The family income amount varies by school. And, depending upon income, families may still have a family contribution.

As for athletic scholarships, the Ivy's do not have athletic scholarships. But, if you are a difference maker athlete, such as a hockey player at Cornell, and you can get in on the academic merits, the school will find a way to make it affordable.
post #44 of 302
typical of your username to talk about cornell hockey players.
post #45 of 302
I can't believe Esquire couldn't even get a half decent store to pick up the prize. I'd rather have $1,000 at Saks than $10,000 from Kenneth Cole.
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