Mafoo in NY Daily News!

gomestar · Aug 18, 2009

Originally Posted by rlx

Ivy League schools provide need-based financial aid only. Interesting that Trepanier says he received a basketball scholarship. Perhaps Columbia has a recruiting violation.

what's even more strange is he says it's full tuition. I follow Syracuse Orange basketball (so legit contenders), and they only offer full tuition to a few select players. It's just odd for him to say that. For the record, I used to work in admissions and financial aid at my Ivy League university, I'm not trying to throw around BS facts or anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if his parents fronted his full education and he is trying to pass it off as "I got a full ride basketball scholarship". Nobody would want to support the guy if he said "yeah, my parents gave me $170,000 for college..."

And back on topic, great interview foof, I hope you win (and not because I wish for $10,000 of Kenneth Cole to be dumped on you)

shoreman1782 · Aug 18, 2009

I never got his username until now. Pretty funny!

I don't know if foo will win, b/c that guy is going to appeal to Esquire (wears editorial favorites), but based on the interviews Dan seems like a complete ahole ("Not to sound like an a—hole, but..." too late!) and foo makes bespoke clothing sound like a totally reasonable way to dress yourself.

-Norton- · Aug 18, 2009

Thousands of dapper dudes vied for the $30,000 prize package, which includes a $10,000 wardrobe from Kenneth Cole

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...#ixzz0OXWYeEH0

Why would anyone here participate and not send death threats/letter bombs?

Don Carlos · Aug 18, 2009

What'll be really fun is when you have to pay taxes on the "value" of the Kenneth Cole prize.

dopey · Aug 18, 2009

Originally Posted by zbromer

Actually, you are completely wrong.

The Ivy League has a strict prohibition against providing athletic scholarships. From wikipedia, "Unlike most Division I athletic conferences, the Ivy League prohibits the granting of athletic scholarships; all scholarships awarded are need-based (financial aid)." This policy is based on the Ivy Group Agreement, which established academic, financial, and athletic standards for athletics in the Ivies. One of its major tenets is that "The members of the Group reaffirm their prohibition of athletic scholarships. Athletes shall be admitted as students and awarded financial aid only on the basis of the same academic standards and economic need as are applied to all other students."

Colgate is a member of the Patriot League. The Patriot League has also had a longstanding tradition of not offering athletic scholarships either. This policy has changed in recent years; however, most of the schools in the league provide far fewer athletic scholarships than traditional Division I programs.

Are you addressing whether Ivy League schools provide athletic scholarships or whether the Ivy League rules prohibit the offering of athletic scholarships? Those are entirely different things.

gomestar · Aug 18, 2009

they prohibit

Thurston · Aug 18, 2009

Originally Posted by dopey

Are you addressing whether Ivy League schools provide athletic scholarships or whether the Ivy League rules prohibit the offering of athletic scholarships? Those are entirely different things.
Not really. Think about it this way: if they really were giving out scholarships (regardless of the rule), how would they not dominate in basketball and football? There are certainly enough poor and lower middle class kids who are smart enough to do okay on their SATs and would trip over themselves to play football or basketball at Harvard on a team that could actually contend with a handful of similar top players.

gomestar · Aug 18, 2009

those kids would get financial aid. If your family makes under $60-70K a year, you're pretty much covered in full (at least according to the new packages that have been rolled out).

and any legitimate player is going to the Big 10, Big East, etc. with the notion that they're going pro.

dopey · Aug 18, 2009

Originally Posted by Thurston

Not really. Think about it this way: if they really were giving out scholarships (regardless of the rule), how would they not dominate in basketball and football? There are certainly enough poor and lower middle class kids who are smart enough to do okay on their SATs and would trip over themselves to play football or basketball at Harvard on a team that could actually contend with a handful of similar top players.

Think about it this way. There are good looking secretaries that can't type who are hired for their typing skills and people who object to things on principle when they care about the money.
Ivy league rosters are filled with players on full scholarship (often through "work-study" no-show jobs and other techniques). A reason they don't dominate in athletics is that many top athletes, especially ones for whom their athletic pursuits are paramount, have other priorities than getting an Ivy education.

gomestar · Aug 18, 2009

I don't doubt that there is some money hidden in there, a cool $2K here and there. But full tuition is ridiculous. Either Columbia is breaching a major Ivy League agreement or he is not disclosing everything he should be.

Fuuma · Aug 18, 2009

Wait did mafoo get in due to forum backing or was it jury related? Old man style is in!! Good luck Foo.

Chips · Aug 18, 2009

Good for him. I'm rooting for him. What the hell could he buy from KC? A ton of socks?

bafield · Aug 18, 2009

"What's the most expensive thing in your closet?

Definitely my Thom Browne cashmere overcoat. It's worth $5,000. But I have a rule: I don't pay retail. Ever. I go to sample sales or shop on eBay. I only paid $800 for that overcoat."

Ummmm...doesn't that make it "worth" $800 then?

Steven Aver · Aug 18, 2009

Originally Posted by Chips

Good for him. I'm rooting for him. What the hell could he buy from KC? A ton of socks?

10 cotton/poly sparkly shirts = $800

25 Skinny Ties = $1250

Seeing 50 pairs of the same black square toe shoes lined up on Foos' floor = Priceless

Fuuma · Aug 18, 2009

Originally Posted by bafield

"What's the most expensive thing in your closet?

Definitely my Thom Browne cashmere overcoat. It's worth $5,000. But I have a rule: I don't pay retail. Ever. I go to sample sales or shop on eBay. I only paid $800 for that overcoat."

Ummmm...doesn't that make it "worth" $800 then?

Retail price is $5000 and that's what he was trying to convey. This is nothing particularly groundbreaking here as the retail versus discounted price seems to allow bragging rights around SF so who are we to judge.

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