Could they be worn with a gray suit,or only with navy or brown-based colors? I am seriously considering buying a pair of blucher wingtips in that color,either by Alden or Crockett & Jones (Hand Grade). Any preference among the forum members?
Some say it's "not right" but I wear tan shoes with light-to-medium grey and marine-navy suits. I may have been influenced by my father who always wears his tan cap-toes (Allen-Edmonds for as long as I can remember) even with dark grey suits. And I greatly prefer the Crockett & Jones brogue over Alden. But then again I may be influenced by the American preference for English and Italian brands.
I would love to get my hands on a pair of EGs some day. Isn't that darker patch on the toe (medallion) (Andrew's picture) a signature EG polishing? Maybe I should plan a trip to London for the summer sale (in June); do you know when EG usually have a sale?
Edward Green does a wonderful antique finish on their shoes. It's one of the main reasons I prefer them over Lobb.
Andrew: fantastic shoes. Did you only "get to wear" them, or did you purchase them - and, in the case, where?
I got them on ebay for $275.00.. I was really fortunate - the first time they were listed I was dead broke and someone else won them. But the buyer never paid and I snapped them up a couple of weeks later.
A Harris - have those shoes pictured ever been worn? Â There's no creasing whatsoever. Â I have terrible problems with creasing, even when I use good shoe trees, the leather never seems to smooth out properly, which makes the shoe unwearable after a year or so.
I took the pictures before I wore them. I have a file of pictures of my own shoes and ones I have sold. One of these days I'm going to put together a website for fans of high-end shoes. When I do I'll need the pictures. Your creasing problem might be related to fit. It could be that you have a very high instep (like me) or it could be another aspect of the shape of your feet. Have you ever tried on shoes from a company that has a variety of lasts? If you could find a last that is closer to the shape of your foot it might alleviate the problem. Â
A Harris, isn't there is something so intrinsically "right" about Edward Green shoes? Another thing, I like the way Ralph Lauren accepts their stylistic integrity and does not ask Edward Green to jump through the hoops of "design-originality".
They are perfect. It would be very hard to change them without messing them up. They are the best thing Ralph Lauren sells - smart move on his part. Unfortunately I've never been into a store that carries more than four or five models of Edward Green and I don't have a catalogue. So I don't know what the full extent of their range is. Do you know if the shoe below - I believe it's called the Wakely monk - is an original Edward Green design? Or perhaps a vintage design that Ralph Lauren asked them to make? I noticed that John Lobb has knocked this model off (which resulted in an extraordinary shoe.)
So, what I am looking for is a sleek, elegant, non-bulky full brougue.
Bengal Stripe hit the nail on the head. It's not the "thickness" that makes a brogue look bulky - it's the detailing and the overall silhouette. I have two pairs of wingtips in my collection. A brown "Chetwynd" Â by Church and a black "Darby" by John Lobb. The Lobbs are older shoes (marked John Lobb Paris instead of just John Lobb) so they may have been made by Edward Green. Bengal Stripe would probably be able to tell me.
You can see how much sleeker the Lobb looks. (despite the fact that the Lobb is a derby while the Church is a balmoral.) Â It's a combination of factors - the broguing and gimping (notched edge) is more refined, also the leather is a much higher quality (not to mention much older and well cared for.) But probably the most dramatic difference is the shape of the Lobb. The Church is a size 11 1/2 F and the Lobb is an 11 1/2 E. But the width difference doesn't totally account for it - the Lobb has a longer, more elegant shape. Â I've never seen the Crocket & Jones "Downing" in person but from the picture in the catalogue it looks quite elegant. If you are looking to buy online you may want to check out the two shoes below: Grenson Masterpieces "Eton" Alfred Sargent "Burlington"
I've seen the shoes Grenson does for Paul Stuart in person. And Grenson assures me (via email) that their "Masterpieces" are made to the same standards. But I haven't yet dropped the $325.00 required to order a pair and find out for sure. If the "Masterpieces" are indeed identical to the Paul Stuart shoes then they are a bit nicer than the Crockett & Jones Handgrade line. I was really impressed by the shoes at Paul Stuart. Â From what Bengal Stripe has said the Alfred Sargent "Premier Exclusive Range" isn't quite as nice as Crockett & Jones Handgrade. But they are less expensive and definitely sleek. Not a traditional brogue but very nice looking.