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post #151 of 160
8/22/09 at 1:18am
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Originally Posted by superfans124 View Post
and isn't there a theoretical human physical limit, around 9.6 that the body will be torn apart by itself at that speed?

That's why it's a theory. I'd like to see someone get to 21' on the pole vault.
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post #152 of 160
8/22/09 at 10:25am
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"Seriously, dozens in every pro ball sport better all-around athletes than Bolt. Kobe, Ichiro, Joe Mauer, DMcN, Vick, Moss. On and on." -Skip Bayless

I usually agree with Skip, but this statement he made on twitter is bullshit. There's no way the latter are better athletes than Bolt

Maybe he meant more skilled? SKip might lose the argument that these guys are better all around athletes than the world's fastest man.
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post #153 of 160
8/22/09 at 12:58pm
Well if you say all around athlete I think that is assuming that if you take an athlete from one sport they are so athletically gifted they can compete in other sports to a high degree. We all know Bolt can run fast but does he possess the athleticism to be successful at other sports, who knows?
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post #154 of 160
8/22/09 at 2:13pm
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I'm just gonna go with "innocent until proven guilty", if he turns out to be another marion jones, I'll jump on the wagon to tear his ass up in no time, but for now, I just want to celebrate his otherworldly ability. I think when I was a kid, breaking 9.8 was the barrier, this is mind-blowing. and isn't there a theoretical human physical limit, around 9.6 that the body will be torn apart by itself at that speed?
that sounds really wrong
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post #155 of 160
8/22/09 at 11:37pm
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Well if you say all around athlete I think that is assuming that if you take an athlete from one sport they are so athletically gifted they can compete in other sports to a high degree. We all know Bolt can run fast but does he possess the athleticism to be successful at other sports, who knows?

Good point.
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post #156 of 160
8/23/09 at 6:35am
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I don't think you read my posts very often.
Are you kidding? I am a fan of your body of work in DT.

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But I learned a lot from your post though. Thanks!
I knew it would come in handy to be a history-nerd.
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post #157 of 160
8/23/09 at 9:37am
What makes me suspicious that Bolt might be on steroids is not his amazing times but the success of the entire Jamaican team. The men's 4 x 100 team just won in Berlin and won at the Olympics in 2008. Jamaican women won the gold in the 100m and the 200m, tied for silver in the 100m and won bronze in the 200m in Beijing. It's too much for such a small country. The population is too small to produce that many winners by chance.

I read the book "Speed Trap" by Charlie Francis, who was Ben Johnson's coach when Johnson was breaking world records. Johnson wasn't the only one juicing. Many of the Canadian sprinters - men and women - were on steroids. In other words, that was the program for the whole team. The Jamaicans may be doing the same thing, although Bolt has always tested negative and that's the bottom line until he doesn't.
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post #158 of 160
8/23/09 at 10:21am
Yeah what i see is, if he broke it at the olympics and wasn't positive then i think he isn't on drugs. Unless they didn't test him at all, i am not sure. But modsquad is right about the whole team. It all seems too good to be true doesnt it?
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post #159 of 160
8/23/09 at 10:22am
The mental game is huge in shorter distances. I'm always skeptical when one person (let alone an entire team) is a bit too consistent in races decided by fractions of a second.
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post #160 of 160
8/23/09 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by modsquad View Post
What makes me suspicious that Bolt might be on steroids is not his amazing times but the success of the entire Jamaican team. The men's 4 x 100 team just won in Berlin and won at the Olympics in 2008. Jamaican women won the gold in the 100m and the 200m, tied for silver in the 100m and won bronze in the 200m in Beijing. It's too much for such a small country. The population is too small to produce that many winners by chance. I read the book "Speed Trap" by Charlie Francis, who was Ben Johnson's coach when Johnson was breaking world records. Johnson wasn't the only one juicing. Many of the Canadian sprinters - men and women - were on steroids. In other words, that was the program for the whole team. The Jamaicans may be doing the same thing, although Bolt has always tested negative and that's the bottom line until he doesn't.
Jamaica has produced, probably per capita, the most championship sprinters of any country in the world. Do a tiny bit of research and you'll see the amount of top sprinters of Jamaica is absolutely staggering. You might as well go ahead and make the same claim for the Kenyan's who dominate long distance running. It's basically an argument of the beard... totally arbitrary.
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