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post #16 of 38
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Originally Posted by Get Smart
It's the way any suit jacket is constructed...simply, where the canvass interlining is either glued (fused) to the material, or it is hand stitched (full canvassed).

now in the case of this here Target jacket, there isnt any interlining since the whole thing is just cotton.
thanks a lot for that so... full canvassed > fused > no interlining essentially?
post #17 of 38
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Originally Posted by Becks23
so... full canvassed > fused

in the most simplest terms, yes (altho some materials might be better fused because they are so thin and need the glued canvassing to give it better shape). A non-interlined/deconstructed jacket is another beast that can be argued to be more laborious to make because it needs to be cleaner in its construction since there is no lining to cover anything up.
post #18 of 38
Yeah, unconstructed jackets are just something else entirely. Personally, I prefer them. Fusing is popular with cheap, crappy suits (Express, Banana Republic, most low end designer labels that sell only the name) because, well, it's cheap, and the results are generally crappy. In the context of this thread, it's a joke related to a now banned troll from a few months back. Got a bit out hand, at that.
post #19 of 38
Actually, fusing technology has gotten to the point where very good fused garments can be made. As with many things, there is no unambiguous answer. Whether a fused garments looks and feels cheap and shoddy or not depends to a large degree on the material used, and in nearly all cases, "half canvassing" which was developed in response to the trendiness and perceived superiority of "canvassed suits", is less desirable than a fully fused suit. I wrote a longer piece about this that was lost during the crash, but the gist of it was that for heavier, winter-weight, fabrics, whether the garment is fused or not is often irrelevant, while for a lighter weight fabric, full canvassing is most desirable, and half canvassing least, because the fused parts, especially at the quarters, "pull" at the rest of the fabric. Moreover, whether a jacket is fused or canvassed matters not one bit unless the quality of the cloth itself is good - something that has nothing whatsoever to do with the count (e.g. a Super 120 is not necessarily superior in *any* way to a Super 100).
post #20 of 38
Doesn't fusing degrade (relatively) rapidly, and fused garments along with it? Or is that a thing of the past?
post #21 of 38
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
Doesn't fusing degrade (relatively) rapidly, and fused garments along with it? Or is that a thing of the past?

Of the past. Fusing technology has come a long way in the past two or so decades. Yes, cheap fused garments exist (I know a place where you can get 2 suits which complementary shirts and ties for each, for $150 - they are not nice), but so do very good ones. Okay, I put in the part about really cheap suit because this is still the streetwear part of the forum.
post #22 of 38
There are tons of nice fused jackets. However, in my experience, canvassed fits noticeably better. It just looks better from all angles. That doesnt dissuade me from buying fused Costume National stuff though.
post #23 of 38
e-gads! I think that blazer has got Napoli-tan shoulders. I've got an unconstucted Vestimenta jacket with almost the same silouhette. And wear it a lot. Not super hot on the fishmouth lapels, but hey, for thirty-four-ninety-nine, I may have to drop by Tar-ghay this weekend.
post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by montecristo#4
Production of fused garments requires either tremendous heat or enormous pressure. Garment-related fusion results in the creation and dissipation of energy via Styleforum discussion threads.

So if I get charcoal and put that in the SuperDuperJacketFusionPress I can make diamonds? Or is the pressure so much that will make the whole machine explode?
post #25 of 38
Just remember the H&M rule: It doesn't matter if it falls apart after a year if you're only going to wear it for 3 months.
post #26 of 38
Vented?
post #27 of 38
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Originally Posted by dusty
Vented?


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post #28 of 38
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Originally Posted by LA Guy
(I know a place where you can get 2 suits which complementary shirts and ties for each, for $150 - they are not nice)

dude, downtown LA... $99 suit. free tie, shirt AND socks. BAM
post #29 of 38
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Originally Posted by shellshock
dude, downtown LA... $99 suit. free tie, shirt AND socks. BAM

Yeah, I know, in the garment district (did not know about the socks though). But I wanted someone to ask me for one, and I could have made a quick $50. Thanks a lot
post #30 of 38
That's consider a jacket of short length? Doesn't look like it on the photo.

This one is another good alternative. and it has working button holes as well.

http://www.uniqlo.com/Items/u49281/image/u49281.jpg
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