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Filson Bag Thread: With Pictures - Page 354post #5297 of 601712/1/15 at 6:51ampost #5298 of 601712/1/15 at 6:52ampost #5299 of 601712/1/15 at 6:54ampost #5300 of 601712/1/15 at 6:57ampost #5301 of 601712/1/15 at 7:50ampost #5302 of 601712/1/15 at 8:52am
Wow - if that's not a design rip-off from Filson, I'm not sure what is!
Note: I'm not questioning their right to do that, but it's the most blatant example I've seen of a direct "copy" of the design. Even down to the little twists on the end of the leather on the zipper pulls and the stitching on the leather strips that straddle the zipper.
Interesting... Thanks for sharing the pictures.post #5303 of 601712/1/15 at 9:25amQuote:
Ah, you haven't seen the Gustin briefcase, then?
My bag arrived yesterday. Crazy work week, but will try to do a comparison with the Filson medium travel bag over the weekend. Initial impressions are positive.post #5304 of 601712/1/15 at 11:21amHaha, yeah they similar in many ways. The topstitching on the leather though? It doesn't seem like there are many other different options in sewing that part. Also, the aesthetic is popular so there are at least 10 different brands at this point that I know of that offer something similar at various price points. A canvas and leather bag can only have so many looks while maintaining the functionality.
Clearly they are similar but I guess I'm a little surprised by the reaction. Any time something is successful there will be imitators. I doubt the Filson design is even protected, it is generic, and was probably copied from someone else to begin with. In the end I will try to chose the best quality for the price, regardless of who created the original, especially if the original has lowered its price to quality.
I guess it just seems a little odd... in fashion something is successful and then everybody copies it, sometimes for better or worse. It would be similar to complaining that Copper Rivers leather satchel isn't unique enough, since leather satchels have been made before.
No doubt it is similar, maybe shockingly so, the owner even worked as a repair person for Filson goods before going on his own.
I think a few of the Vermilyea tweaks speak to thoughtfulness of design, like the full leather bottom, the thicker and longer shoulder pad,hand strap, and antique brass. It is missing the storm flap, which makes it easier to access.post #5305 of 601712/1/15 at 1:34pm
Don't get me wrong, gmanoftheroad, I am fully fine with the concept of "imitation being the most sincere form of flattery". That said, the amount of detail that is EXACTLY the same between the Filson and the Vermilyea Pelle (and now the Gustin thanks to dcg for pointing that out) just seemed remarkable to me.
That's all. No worries.
The canvas in the VP looks more like the waxed canvas that Frost River makes - I have one of their bags and they, too, are very nice.
That Vermilyea Pelle is a sweet bag - on that we can all agree.post #5306 of 601712/1/15 at 2:42pmhttps://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/bags/PRDOVR~30353/30353.jsp
Not trying to defend Vermilyea, but a lot of bags have the "filson" look. Someday we may all look back and think this look was way overdone. I'll wait until I see more filsons* than tumis.post #5307 of 601712/1/15 at 9:28pmLike the VP bag. Don't care that much if it has homage elements especially if there are upgrades there like better leather.
Having said that, there are definitely design elements with Filson luggage that are unique to Filson even compared to other brands using leather and canvas. In my opinion, VP and Gustin are directly incorporating styling cues from Filson. You can see this in the shape of the leather shoulder strap attachment point, the shape of the shoulder pad, the leather strips around the zipper etc etc.
In contrast, there are bags that are just leather and canvas like Duluth Pack or JW Hulme or Frost River and the resemblance to Filson is just in terms of materials.
Edited by Soletrane - 12/2/15 at 2:08pmpost #5308 of 601712/3/15 at 12:38pm
Does anyone know what year the small, medium, and large duffle were released? I like the classic Filson bags (256,257,258) but Filson released a whole bunch of newer stuff within the last couple of years and the newer stuff clearly was from the mind of a different designer and I have a hard time liking the bags.post #5309 of 601712/3/15 at 7:36pmpost #5310 of 601712/3/15 at 8:07pmQuote:Originally Posted by ertu
Does anyone know what year the small, medium, and large duffle were released? I like the classic Filson bags (256,257,258) but Filson released a whole bunch of newer stuff within the last couple of years and the newer stuff clearly was from the mind of a different designer and I have a hard time liking the bags.
Style 220 (small), 222 (medium), 223 (large) and 224 (extra large) feature in the 2011 catalogues.
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