A useful little video. Peronally, I really do lean to OG and then tan.
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Filson Bag Thread: With Pictures - Page 244post #3646 of 58743/23/14 at 10:32ampost #3647 of 58743/24/14 at 8:25amQuote:
Customer service at Revolve just told me they no longer offer the 30% new customer discount.post #3648 of 58743/24/14 at 8:39ampost #3649 of 58743/24/14 at 8:48ampost #3650 of 58743/24/14 at 4:43pmQuote:Originally Posted by cathpah
The small isn't too huge at all, and keep in mind that if you don't pack it full, the bag really does become as small as whatever the contents that it's carrying.
If you're looking for something specifically for a carryon, I'd recommend the medium travel bag. Similar to the duffle, but just a few more pockets for organization.
If you intend on using it for longer trips as a carry-on, a medium travel bag will suit you better than the small duffle. I own the small duffle after debating both, and for my needs the smaller height of the duffle made more sense. I've used the small duffle (the oil-finish version) on a 2 week trip to Europe, but also had a backpack full of stuff as well. It worked, but the duffle was filled to the point of exploding. I've used my otter green small duffle on a handful of 3-4 day trips with success. I've fit sneakers in there, but trying to pack for that long with something like boots may be too much for that size.post #3651 of 58743/28/14 at 2:02pmQuote:
I called. I also just chatted with them and Silvia had this to say:
"Unfortunately, I do apologize that we no longer have the first time customer promotion available as the discount has been discontinued. The decision was made by our upper management to do so and I am very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. However, we do still have our ongoing coupon code TULIP for 10% off your order on all non-restricted brands that you can apply at Checkout. Please note the discount is not available on New Arrivals and Best Sellers."post #3652 of 58743/29/14 at 9:03am
I ended up opting for the Large Twill Carry-on instead of the small duffel. I thought it was a better shape for packing:
Also check out the Sportsman's Bag:
With the side pockets it's kind of wide to walk around an airport with, but the interior shape and side-pockets make it a really versatile bag.post #3653 of 58743/30/14 at 6:22pmpost #3654 of 58743/30/14 at 10:44pmQuote:
I've had a medium Field Bag (#232) in each. Bought the oil finish tin cloth first, and after 20 months of daily wear, one of the straps blew at the attachment point -- apparently Filson now sews them with longer tails inside the bag, so this shouldn't happen anymore. I'd also managed to wear through the fabric in a few places. This is what it looked like when I took it back in to the Seattle store for repair:
The reaction from Filson was "I've never seen anyone do that in only two years. We can of course fix it for free, but have you considered upgrading to the twill? Otherwise you will probably have to come back in another two years." So for $60 (after tax) I walked out with one of the canvas twill field bags.
The two bags have their differences, despite being the exact same model.
Shape/Structure: Canvas holds its shape better: even cinched tight, it has some 3d shape and looks great. The tin cloth lies really flat against the body when empty, and the bottom has a tendency to sag. This is largely the fault of the design: when the bag is lightly loaded, you can't slide the buckles up and shorten the straps enough to keep the bottom of the tin cloth bag horizontal to the floor. Can't do it with the stock canvas one, either, but if you punch another 6 holes in the leather straps you can do it. I had them do this for me at the store. To fix the tin cloth one, you'd have to cut the strain-relief stitching that attaches the flap to the strap, and re-do it at the very top, by the edge of the flap. That would allow you to shorten the straps by the necessary 4 or 6".
Color: The tan oil finish cloth is a little olive green-ish compared to the tan canvas' yellow-brown.
Patina: The oil finish cloth shows every little scrape, and stains/discolors easier (and unevenly). I think this is great. You can see this best in the difference in color on the front pockets between the edge and the part that is protected by the strap. The tin cloth picked up a lot of blue from my jeans, too, especially along the bottom edge (that's how the holes got there, too). The canvas bag just gets slightly darker as you use it, because the fabric is tougher. If you apply the tin cloth wax to the canvas bag, you can put a finish on the bag that will show scuffs almost like the oil finish, plus pick up a little more dirt.
Hardware: I love the bridle leather, but the hardware is really jangly, and the strap tails dangle all over the place. I liked the nylon shoulder strap on the tin cloth bag, and the plastic buckles are easier to deal with than the metal ones, but I think I'm in the minority on that. The biggest practical difference is that the metal key hook on the canvas is much harder to deal with than the plastic one on the tin cloth.
Convenience: In practice, both are equally (and very) weather resistant (I re-waxed the tin cloth every 6-8 months). Canvas will last forever, tin cloth won't. The oil finish bag packs flat, or rolls up. Canvas doesn't. Oil finish weighs a pound or so, canvas is over 2.5 lbs. If you're only carrying the bag for 15 minutes at a time before you put it down, it makes no difference. When you're lugging a computer and a stack of books for a mile or two, or when you're traveling and walk around with it all day, it's painful. The weight alone makes me want to return the canvas and downgrade to tin cloth and just expect to repair it every couple years. I prefer the color, shape, and durability of the canvas bag, but it's heavy enough that I don't automatically reach for it (or pack it) the way I did with the old one. If I could replace just the back pocket and bottom panel of a tin cloth bag with canvas, I'd be all set...post #3655 of 58743/31/14 at 8:52ampost #3656 of 58743/31/14 at 9:12amQuote:Originally Posted by HarrisonTran
Thank you for a very well written out reply to my question, I think from it I will look into Twill rather than tin cloth, because I had a J Crew Abingdon in the past which has the same loose form that is similar to the tin cloth and I wasn't as happy with it's lack of shape.
Having both, I find they serve different needs... but they are both fantastic bags.
My old 257 (in tan) is now looking really beaten up. I've had it for about 2 years and while it still holds its shape very well, it is looking very used. This isn't a bad thing of course - the patina is great, and I will continue to use if when I am working on site (and don't need to look particularly smart).
My new black tincloth (256) is considerably lighter (the fabric is of course much less rigid as a result), and the nylon strap is much more lightweight and comfortable (imo) than the leather bridle strap. I will continue to use this bag when I am in the office. Additionally, as it's black it inevitably looks smarter than the tan, which began to look grubby as soon as I first began to use it. The black hides the dirt well.post #3657 of 58743/31/14 at 9:33ampost #3658 of 58744/2/14 at 6:28am
Long-time lurker here and recent Filson addict. I thought you guys might be interested that I watched the film Enemy over the weekend, and the main character played by Jake Gyllenhaal carries a 256 or 257 in various scenes throughout the movie (the character is a history professor). My girlfriend thought it was funny that I leaned over in one of the opening scenes and said "Filson bag!"
I also see that Jake is a Filson fan, at least seen wearing the Filson x Levis trucker a while back:post #3659 of 58744/2/14 at 11:02ampost #3660 of 58744/2/14 at 4:30pmSooo I kept looking around, but couldn't find a better replacement, so I am back to Filson. I bought my briefcase a year ago at a BB F&F sale. Right now I don't see any; is it worth buying 257 at retail of $300? I'm seeing a couple ebay sellers selling it for around $250 and I wonder if I get any disadvantages from purchasing from such vendors. Thanks in advance!
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