This just doesn't sit well with me at all. First off cotton is cold period. At least when it's waxed it provides some measure of protection from wind and moisture. As far as being stiff is concerned it sounds more like a break in problem. Yeah it's stiff when new and cold but loosens up with use. It took 2 years for my packer to loosen up and I wore that coat on job sites and afield nearly everyday in the Winters. Sweating while afield is a temperature control problem that's typically caused by poor base and middle layer choices than anything else. You add and remove layers as needed to control sweating. Plain and simply you took an outer garment that was specifically designed to protect you from thorns and more importantly the elements. Then you decide to remove the component of the garment that could keep you alive for what reason again? Oh I could go on but but I'll stop. One question though. If all you wanted was basically duck briar pants why didn't you buy that from another outfitter instead of screwing up a Filson product?
I don’t have much sympathy for someone that jacks up their rig with a 6” lift then doesn’t understand why the manufacture will not cover thousands of dollars in repairs for drive train damage. If you make mods then it is implied that you eat the cost if something goes wrong down the road. I’ve been meaning to PM you about the raptor half soles you put on your LTD Wolverine boots. Last fall I picked up a pair of AE walnut shell Dalton boots and had my first pair of half soles put on, standard Vibram half soles. They don’t help much with traction because they are hard rubber and still slippery on marble and tile, which is where I spent most of my work day. Searching around last fall it looks like the Vibram Raptor would work well for me but can’t find any real life experience after they are installed. Couple of months ago I stumbled across one of your posts where you had the Raptor installed. Off topic of this thread but your thoughts on the Raptor if you don’t mind? You do know that because Wolverine doesn’t have a contract with Horween for shell AE made the LTD? And putting half soles or sole protectors voids the warranty according to AE…. But some of us will do what it takes to make an OEM product functional like you did. If done smartly risk assessment is the first step.
I’m talking hunting for the king of the uplands, the ruffled grouse 0-60 in 1.5 seconds. According to the GPS I walk at least 8 miles a day grouse hunting, I'm not out just walking the dog. Grouse live in thickets where there is food and cover and the cover is normally the type that tears at flesh and clothes. Olympic NF and North Cascades in Wa. State is primarily fir trees, so not so much. Or Northern Mn. where aspen dominates not quite as bad either. But Western NC and Northern Appalachians northward including traditional New England coverts very much so. Mid to South Mn. and Wisconsin are as my friends from the West say “lousy with chlorophyll” too. 20-30 years ago not many options were available. Carharts only last a couple of weeks before being shreded. Filson was the best compromise due to ability to turn thorns.
Yes I am talking well broken in waxed clothing being stiff in the cold. I specifically said teens to twentys below zero. Although below zero it gets pretty damn stiff too. So does all waxed cotton that I have ever been around including my grandfathers ~100 year old DuxBak.
I’m very familiar with moisture management, you have to be when your miles from another human in the late fall and winter. Waxed clothing does not allow moisture or heat to escape which is why they are hot during physical exertion. Upland Journal is a BBS where many upland hunters hang out, here is a search using the keywoods Filson and hot for that site. And almost 500 hits on a site that is archived regularly so guess I'm not the only one: