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To rubber or not to rubber

Jay Gatsby

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Is having these put on going to interfere with the refurbishing process? Can I send them in to the manufacturer with the rubbers on?
 

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Originally Posted by Mild Mannered
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This pic suits this thread/topic all too well.
 

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Originally Posted by Jay Gatsby
Is having these put on going to interfere with the refurbishing process? Can I send them in to the manufacturer with the rubbers on?

Depends.

Lobbs will disclaim any warranty if they find that these have been applied. I've resoled a pair of lobbs with Topy's added on and they stated that if the resoling comes back not to my satisfaction, then they wouldn't do anything about it. Lobbs has the best customer service of all high end shoe stores and I was taken aback about their disdain for any work done on their shoes that wasn't done by their own shop.
 

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Originally Posted by Jay Gatsby
Is having these put on going to interfere with the refurbishing process? Can I send them in to the manufacturer with the rubbers on?

According to RIDER, having rubber on the soles won't get int the way of resoling. If you send a pair back to the manufacturer I'm assuming that they use some special solvent to dissolve the glue and it just comes right off.
 

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using a hairdryer will also do the job.
 

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the cobbler i go to use a rubber sole branded rhino, and it comes with a life time guarantee so if i ever wear it down completely or it just falls off its is replaced free of charge. i feel that its a good deal for loosing the pretty leather sole.
 

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Originally Posted by FlaneurNYC
I sometimes wear shoes for a short time before adding the rubber.

that's the way it should be done...
 

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Originally Posted by fritzl
that's the way it should be done...

Care to elaborate as to why? Could it be because having a rough leather surface gives the bonding agent something to adhere to?

I have a pair of Marteganis and Pal Zileris that haven't been worn yet so I'm considering having them rubbered. On the Zileries there is some writing underneath:

"Lavorazione Goodyear
Pal Zileri sartoriale
Lavrazione a mano
Made in Italy"​

For whatever reason I feel like preserving it but I'm not sure if the adhesive would damage the original sole.
 

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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan
I've had some decent luck with Vibram.

Yes, so have I actually. I got a pair of shell cordovan chelseas from RIDER about a month ago and they came with Vibram; I was quite impressed with how it was applied and how seamless it was to the original sole. In my pre-SF days I Topyed a fused pair of shoes and the result was not that great. At 2 years later, their already starting to come off.

Again, my concern is more about how well the adhesive would not disturb the writing on the sole when it comes time to re-rubber. I know it's a bit crazy, but aren't we all around here?
 

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Originally Posted by Albern
Care to elaborate as to why? Could it be because having a rough leather surface gives the bonding agent something to adhere to?

That is my understanding. Alternately, if you bring in a new pair of shoes with fresh soles, they can simply rough up the soles with some sandpaper before applying the Topy.

Originally Posted by Salsalocust
Don't topy...... add more shoes to your rotation instead.
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If you 'need' rubber soles..... buy rubber soled shoes. There are plenty to choose from.

Regards,

Graham


+1

Originally Posted by Albern
Again, my concern is more about how well the adhesive would not disturb the writing on the sole when it comes time to re-rubber. I know it's a bit crazy, but aren't we all around here?

^ Maybe we are, but not to that extent.
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Originally Posted by Albern
Care to elaborate as to why? Could it be because having a rough leather surface gives the bonding agent something to adhere to?
you already gave the answer. also a good cobbler can read your gait. from my personal experience: i wouldn't "topy"(used as synonym for putting any kind of rubbersole on a shoe) a shoe in an aftermarket job again. retrospective, it is "always" a tradeoff, at least for me. if i need a shoe with a ruber sole, i buy one or have it made. again just my personal experience: the wearing of the sole is much more depending on the fit of the shoe, than the sole. imagine, i live in austria, in an alpine region. not much trouble with double leather soled shoes. certainly, under heavy conditions i have my boots with vibram lug sole and i am done. urban myths: a shoe is damaged after it is soaked through. not true, i do not recommend it, but it is not a tragedy mold makes a shoe "unwearable" afterwards not true rubber soled shoes are less slippery... not true, think of aquaplaning if something else comes to my mind, i'll add it to the list
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Originally Posted by Salsalocust
Don't topy...... add more shoes to your rotation instead.
smile.gif


If you 'need' rubber soles..... buy rubber soled shoes. There are plenty to choose from.

Regards,

Graham


+ 1000

thanks
 

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I always put a rubber on, it is safer that way and lasts longer.
Never had hydroplaning, but I am always open to new things.
 

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