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post #16 of 35
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Originally Posted by Teacher
Man there's a lot of unwarrented animosity here. Let's please settle down, guys.
Sorry, Teach. This is not animosity. It is merely (hopefully humorous) reminder that money is involved in this instance. One should not use the various men's fora to sell one's services anonymously. Forum owners and the public (that's you) have a right to know whose opinion is being offered when the offerer claims "professional" status.
post #17 of 35
It should also be noted that one flaw in the study quoted is that American juries generally do not sentence the convicted defendant, the Judge does. The death penalty is the typical exception.

That said, attractiveness of the defendant may impact the outcome of the guilty verdict. However, as a practicing attorney, I can assure the gentle reader that, despite gobs and gobs of quasi-scientific studies and the ponderous prouncements of self-appointed jury experts, the simple truth is that there are too many variables at play in any given trial to have one changes to superficial variables such as dress, hair-style, posture appreciably impact the outcome to any reliable degree as to ensure predictability.
post #18 of 35
Well, it's easy enough to go to mensimageconsultant.com and see. I don't think any of us are under the delusion that they offer their services for free or that the moniker of "professional" conveys absolute credibility.

Personally, I've found many of MIC's posts informative but I don't take them as gospel. I'd like to avail myself of the services of both professionals on this thread, but due to the price points involved, one is considerably more likely than the other.
post #19 of 35
Thread Starter 
Last word in this thread (and, ideally, ever) about anonymity:
Anyone (and, really, it was never expected that forum regulars would want to buy) can contact Conselle and ask if mensimageconsultant.com is legit. (But please don't swamp the Institute with inquiries. All it takes is one skeptic to post the affirmative answer.)

J, sorry for being a distraction.
post #20 of 35
As you suggested, I tried to call the Conselle Institute in Utah. The telephone was answered by an answering machine. Perhaps Judith Rasband is off on a speaking tour. Further information, for those interested, may be found here: Review of the Conselle Institute philosophy and Public Relations information here: The Conselle Institute
post #21 of 35
I don't think the suit is that bad. The sleeves look too long, and the guy is in terrible shape, but the overall look is pretty average and inoffensive in general. I don't think any juror would be swayed by it either way. If he were wearing some cheezy stereotypical mobster outfit, maybe.

Why do people have to use their real names to sell stuff? If I know the guy's name is really "Jan Meerkens" does that help me in some way? And if it really bothers me that I don't know the guy or who he is or what his background is, wouldn't I just... not buy from him?
post #22 of 35
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Originally Posted by Alexander Kabbaz
Dang it all! I though consultants were supposed to remain anonymous. My bad.

You have to be paid some how :-)
post #23 of 35
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Originally Posted by Alexander Kabbaz
As you suggested, I tried to call the Conselle Institute in Utah. The telephone was answered by an answering machine. Perhaps Judith Rasband is off on a speaking tour.

Further information, for those interested, may be found here:

Review of the Conselle Institute philosophy

and Public Relations information here:

The Conselle Institute

Wow. That Conselle web site is...interesting . I'm not sure what to say, other than Ms Rasband might benefit from an image consultant herself.
post #24 of 35
Do Tom Cruise and Madonna (oops I mean Esther) belong?
post #25 of 35
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Review of the Conselle Institute philosophy

and Public Relations information here:

The Conselle Institute

MIC, the java action on that homepage is over the top and excrutiatingly annoying, BTW. Comes off as quite cheesy and undercuts the sophisticated professionalism I think you want to present.

And why does that first link connect to a dead page on the 'Gay American Archives' website?

Am I coming in very late on some inside joke?
post #26 of 35
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Originally Posted by Margaret
And why does that first link connect to a dead page on the 'Gay American Archives' website?

Am I coming in very late on some inside joke?

There is an error in the link; one needs to remove one of the "http://" to view the article. The writer of the article in question is responding to an newspaper article he read which quotes Ms Rasband.
post #27 of 35
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Margaret
I don't think the suit is that bad. The sleeves look too long, and the guy is in terrible shape, but the overall look is pretty average and inoffensive in general. I don't think any juror would be swayed by it either way. If he were wearing some cheezy stereotypical mobster outfit, maybe.

Court reactions to it aside, it's more than the suit sleeves. The jacket might be slightly long. The pants are much too tight and probably a little long. The belt possibly is too tight. The tie is too narrow; maybe he's stuck with that for the most part, but the color and pattern could be bolder, to draw attention away from his size. Also, for the same reason, he'd do better with a patterned shirt or possibly (if not too "Mafia") a striped suit. Compare with some other outfits he's wearing, where his poor physical fitness is downplayed.
post #28 of 35
Sorry - I screwed up the link:

Further information, for those interested, may be found here:

Review of the Conselle Institute philosophy

Thank God I'm not a MensComputerConsultant, eh?
post #29 of 35
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad
Kabbaz, I've never had the pleasure of wearing one of your shirts, so I can't really comment on your prowess in that field - but you're one funny guy.

post #30 of 35
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Originally Posted by dah328
Well, it's easy enough to go to mensimageconsultant.com and see. I don't think any of us are under the delusion that they offer their services for free or that the moniker of "professional" conveys absolute credibility.



Hmm, thinking for ourselves, like adults do... That's an interesting angle.
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