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post #31 of 46
Very clever, Metro. How about you take a job as my assistant?

-B
post #32 of 46
i actually think private banking in some form can be a good fit.

you can take a role in private banking or private wealth mgmt for high net worth individuals. just remember a few stock pitches from research and call them to calm them down when their portfolios are down.

a fundraiser is another good option.
post #33 of 46
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I want to wine and dine and entertain people/clients. I wanna just be on the phone shooting the shit all day.

Have you tried this for any length of time? 'Cause gladhanding people all day sounds like my idea of hell. It's exhausting work if your personality isn't suited to it.

If you haven't done this sort of thing, I'd suggest trying it out before committing to it as a career change.
post #34 of 46
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Have you tried this for any length of time? 'Cause gladhanding people all day sounds like my idea of hell. It's exhausting work if your personality isn't suited to it.

If you haven't done this sort of thing, I'd suggest trying it out before committing to it as a career change.

yea at first its real fun. then you begin to hate it.
post #35 of 46
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Bingo. We are not talking about broking stocks. We are referring to sales of FUNDS. You just have to memorize 1 pitch book, dial for dollars, sell a track record that isnt yours, and shoot the breeze with institutional investors.

Yeah, it's like having your own money printing press

Good luck breaking into a sales job on the street with no experience or book. It's not like there are a bunch of guys that have been doing that for years at other places that are unemployed or anything. And business is of course booming, every inistitutional client is looking to plow money into the equity market.
post #36 of 46
Do ALL of you gaylords work in finance? Even Ed sounds like he does; I feel nauseous.
post #37 of 46
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Tired of being used for my mental prowess, imo. Tired of spending time in front of Excel or thinking about complicated financial instruments. Time to give back...to myself.

I want to wine and dine and entertain people/clients. I wanna just be on the phone shooting the shit all day. I don't want to spend too much time on the computer. I want to be in a position where I can make over $200K by the time I am 30-32.

Clearly this sounds like a sales or account manager position of some sort. Which industry and which firms? Investment management? S&T? Private Banking? Pharma sales?

Thanks.

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So you want to be a lobbyist? You may want to look into lobbying school. FWIW you may end up having to testify against your boss, but when the legislature is in recess there's really nothing to do so there you go.

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lobbyist

Talking to ourselves here.

The 20's and 30's are mostly about paying dues, you generally don't hit your highest earning potential until you're in your mid 40's.
post #38 of 46
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Yeah, it's like having your own money printing press

Good luck breaking into a sales job on the street with no experience or book. It's not like there are a bunch of guys that have been doing that for years at other places that are unemployed or anything. And business is of course booming, every inistitutional client is looking to plow money into the equity market.

I think he was asking about career progression. Of course no one is going to hire him at the marketing level without experience. that goes without saying. I think if he wants to break in at the client service level, there are opportunities. That is the career path I think works for that particular job. Fund sales (not institutional research or transaction sales) is an oft overlooked part of the industry because there is very little technical expertise involved.
post #39 of 46
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Do ALL of you gaylords work in finance? Even Ed sounds like he does; I feel nauseous.

It's an industry that attracts gaylords
post #40 of 46
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It's an industry that attracts gaylords
very informative
post #41 of 46
+1 on private wealth management. I am a college student at UPenn but I interned in the ultra-high net worth office for a major private bank one summer. I decided it wasn't for me, but I frequently suggest it to my Wharton brethren who are looking for a more social workplace and don't have too large an ego to not work for a bulge bracket iBank or in PE. Every wealth management group (usually about half a dozen people) included a lawyer and a few qualified traders who mostly just shot the shit with clients all day and frequently went golfing. The atmosphere was very relaxed and the individual groups were pretty autonomous with respect to the bank for which they worked. I would consider it because your take home pay is very correlated with your own sales prowess and performance and the clients you'd be interacting with are very, very interesting people. Hours are very reasonable.
post #42 of 46
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medical device sales is what I'm trying to break into. It's still work but it sounds to be a pretty good job.

+1. capital equipment sales, medical devices, telecommuniations, industrial capital equipment, transportation capital equipment. essentially, anything that involves 3 or more decision makers and >100 k per PO.
post #43 of 46
Wow, I'm shocked at the love Commercial RE is getting. Being a broker or RE IBanker really isn't sexy work at all, especially if you're under 30-32. I spend most of my time talking to those shmucks and by and large they hate their lives - someone mentioned you don't start earning until mid-40's and that's definitely true of Commercial RE sales. The guys who are MD's at the Eastdils, CBRE's, and HFF's of the world wine and dine and used to make bank, but they're almost all exclusively 40+ year old sycophantic sociopaths.
post #44 of 46
Development for a university might work. You wouldn't make that much money though. At least I hope not. You could get free tuition for grad school though. Might be a good option for a few years.
post #45 of 46
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post
+1. capital equipment sales, medical devices, telecommuniations, industrial capital equipment, transportation capital equipment. essentially, anything that involves 3 or more decision makers and >100 k per PO.

Spot on. The easiest way I know to get to this situation is enterprise sales executive. You might each shit for a couple of years learning the ropes but once you're looking after a couple of larger accounts you can absolutely kill it. If you're 21 you can easily get there before you're 30.

Life might seem easy once you get to that level but you're going to have to work pretty hard to get there, so don't be afraid of a bit of stress/pressure.
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