The REAL problem here is that Macintosh isn't just a computer for many
people, its a lifestyle choice, an "ideal", and one that I happen to vigorously object to.
I'm sorry dude, but you don't just voice your complaint about the product. You voice your complaints about the people. If I had the time I could go through and find every quote where you made a sweeping generalization about Mac users and pull them up to you. Oh here's one (one not true), I just bolded it above.
A "sweeping generalization" would be me saying, "Mac users are overly sensitive about percieved criticism, whether real or imagined." What I DID say does not count as a sweeping generalization because I never stated that all Mac user do anything. I said MANY. Which, unless it strikes a nerve, may not even include you. It does not even indicate "most" or "a majority". If you are going to publicly vilify me for doing something, at least select a quote where I actually do it. The one time in THIS thread that I made a sweeping generalization is highlighted below.
You people are hopeless. Go ahead and conform.
I agree that was probably out of line, and I apologize, but I felt it was appropriate within the context of the discussin. I tire of being bombarded with the"your computer is ugly and has viruses" argument. Because it is not, and it does not. This is a grossly false and invalid assumption on the part of people who I wouldnt trust to know the difference. Have you ever seen my computer? I happen to like it. I do not like the way Mac computers all share the same look and aesthetic.You can look at a computer from across the room and tell its a Macintosh. Deny it if you want, but they all look the same. They all conform to the same visual aesthetic. People who buy the Mac (at least in part) because of the styling, are conforming to the ideal that Apple designed. I have never met a Mac user who hates the way they look, so my assumption is that there aren't many. Have you ever thought about taking the guts out of your Mac and sticking in a black HTPC case? Why not? Would it even work? I'm not sure. Is it conformity? In my mind, yes it is.
I'm sorry dude, but you don't just voice your complaint about the product. You voice your complaints about the people.
Exactly right. Like what happens in the clothing forum all day long. It's the suitmakers fault that it sucks, but its the person's fault for wearing it. Seriously.I feel like I'm having to protect myself against your biased viewpoint here. I can point out numerous times when Apple users have directed snide remarks and veiled insults at PC users,(on this board, its mostly been me) telling us that our computers are ugly, giving our OS cute but ultimately derogatory nicknames like windoze, insinuating that they are poorly built and that I am somehow lacking in taste or brainpower because I would rather own a PC and keep my options than switch to a pre-built closed system shiny peice of fluff who's OS annoys me and doesn't let me do what I want. I don't mind it at all, for the record, because there are many people out there who feel that way. And I recognize that it is their opinion. I can question whether the clever Apple marketing machine has influenced their opinions or not, filling their head with garbage like "Apples don't crash or get virii" But again, it is a discussion that I think is perfectly ok to have. Getting upset when I voice my opinion that Mac's are ugly and the OS sucks, taking it personally when I say something about "many people" that is undoubtably true IMO, vague in number, not directed specifically at you or anyone in particular, and may or may not even apply to you is overreacting. Relax. If anyone non-moderator wise has been offended by anything I've said directly to you, that you percieved as an insult, I apologize. In the future please feel free to PM me with your concerns about the particular post and we can address it like adults. To those of you out there who are offended by my attitude,viewpoint, or stance on politics, religion, or computers... I don't care. I am allowed to have different opinions than you, and we are allowed to disagree. We are also allowed to discuss it, which is sort of the purpose of public boards. If everyone agreed all the time we might as well just talk to ourselves in the mirror all day. If you don't like it or value my opinions and posts, ignore me. But in all honesty I would rather discuss it.