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post #1 of 19
8/10/09 at 7:00pm
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Yesterday, Victorino got tossed from the Phillies game, from center field! A half inning earlier the home plate ump blew a call with Howard. He called him out on strikes with a pitch that was almost in the dirt. Then he called it a ball for Helms (very similar pitch) so Victorino threw his arms up in center field and got tossed. That was a ridiculous call and makes me question umpires sometimes. What do you guys think of the situation?
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post #2 of 19
8/10/09 at 7:28pm
The umps sucked in that situation. It is a hard game to judge but they make a lot of mistakes.
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post #3 of 19
8/10/09 at 8:23pm
Thought it was bullshit, but I am biased.

Would have had no problem, though, if a warning was issued to Vic.
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post #4 of 19
8/10/09 at 8:59pm
Ron Cherry is the most retarded official in sports. But baseball umps can be moronic. I can't wait until I'm an old man and it's all digital.
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post #5 of 19
8/10/09 at 9:03pm
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Ron Cherry is the most retarded official in sports. But baseball umps can be moronic. I can't wait until I'm an old man and it's all digital.

Bob Costas will never let that happen.
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post #6 of 19
8/10/09 at 9:08pm
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Thought it was bullshit, but I am biased.

Would have had no problem, though, if a warning was issued to Vic.

As am I. I'm from the Philly burbs as well but that was complete bs. Something looks really fishy there don't you think? Victorino was hitting well and got tossed. The umps blew a lot of obvious calls. I dunno just seems odd.
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post #7 of 19
8/10/09 at 9:42pm
I don't so much mind that MLB umps miss a call now and then, but fuck! Some of them really have attitudes. Like they're looking for a fight. Baseball is supposed to be a serene sport, lit in the golden tones of sundown, and played by gentlemen.
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post #8 of 19
8/10/09 at 10:08pm
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I don't so much mind that MLB umps miss a call now and then, but fuck! Some of them really have attitudes. Like they're looking for a fight.

Baseball is supposed to be a serene sport, lit in the golden tones of sundown, and played by gentlemen.

Yea I understand that some are going to make mistakes but they also need to deal with players voicing their opinion on shitty calls. Some of these guys are out of control.
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post #9 of 19
8/10/09 at 11:51pm
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Originally Posted by Jbreen1 View Post
Yea I understand that some are going to make mistakes but they also need to deal with players voicing their opinion on shitty calls. Some of these guys are out of control.

You know, there are some Umps in the Hall of Fame. I don't know if any other sport puts officials in their hall of fame, maybe Mills Lane in boxing, that's about it.
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post #10 of 19
8/11/09 at 8:36am
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As am I. I'm from the Philly burbs as well but that was complete bs. Something looks really fishy there don't you think? Victorino was hitting well and got tossed. The umps blew a lot of obvious calls. I dunno just seems odd.

Seemed like Rollins had a similar reaction to Vic; guess we were lucky they didn't both get tossed. I dunno, mistakes will happen, but I agree with Dakota rube - umps should be looking to diffuse situations, not create them. Fans are there to see the players, not the umps.

Even more bothersome was the refusal to review Dobbs' 11th inning potential home run over the foul pole vs. the Red Sox earlier this year. Replay was instituted for home runs, but the ump decided that he made the right call and didn't need to take a look. Really? They need to institute a system similar to the NFL with challenges.
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post #11 of 19
8/11/09 at 9:17am
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Seemed like Rollins had a similar reaction to Vic; guess we were lucky they didn't both get tossed. I dunno, mistakes will happen, but I agree with Dakota rube - umps should be looking to diffuse situations, not create them. Fans are there to see the players, not the umps.

Even more bothersome was the refusal to review Dobbs' 11th inning potential home run over the foul pole vs. the Red Sox earlier this year. Replay was instituted for home runs, but the ump decided that he made the right call and didn't need to take a look. Really? They need to institute a system similar to the NFL with challenges.

Yea from what I can tell umps are on serious power trips. They must have been those kids in school that always got picked on and now feel the need to abuse their power just like cops lol.
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post #12 of 19
8/11/09 at 9:24am
I'm not going to hate on the umps here. I think they do a pretty good job, all things considered. What I think people fail to realize is that all these guys know each other, so there's always a backstory we may not understand. They make mistakes; they make a lot of mistakes, but by and large they do a damned good job. Particularly in a sport like baseball, where the judging of every single pitch is so crucial to the game. Electronically called balls and strikes is the dumbest idea I have ever heard, and would kill baseball.
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post #13 of 19
8/11/09 at 10:31am
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I'm not going to hate on the umps here. I think they do a pretty good job, all things considered. What I think people fail to realize is that all these guys know each other, so there's always a backstory we may not understand.

They make mistakes; they make a lot of mistakes, but by and large they do a damned good job. Particularly in a sport like baseball, where the judging of every single pitch is so crucial to the game.

Electronically called balls and strikes is the dumbest idea I have ever heard, and would kill baseball.

Why would it kill baseball? Anything that can bring accuracy and consistency to baseball is a good thing. Think of how many games have been blown to bad calls from umps. It gets frustrating for fans.
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post #14 of 19
8/11/09 at 1:36pm
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Why would it kill baseball? Anything that can bring accuracy and consistency to baseball is a good thing. Think of how many games have been blown to bad calls from umps. It gets frustrating for fans.

There are literally hundreds of calls that have to be made in a game, sometimes a thousand. The sheer scale of it says calls will be blown.

Deal with it.

Can't remember the stat but in one of my books there is a quote that in a typical game, if an ump gets 98% of all calls right, they will still get more than 7 wrong. That's a pretty high number.
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post #15 of 19
8/11/09 at 2:10pm
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There are literally hundreds of calls that have to be made in a game, sometimes a thousand. The sheer scale of it says calls will be blown.

Deal with it.

Can't remember the stat but in one of my books there is a quote that in a typical game, if an ump gets 98% of all calls right, they will still get more than 7 wrong. That's a pretty high number.


The problem is the 7 they get wrong. They have a 98% rating on calling check swings or catcher's interferance. When those dummies blew that Tony Tarasco call in the Yankee's/O's series where that kid reached over and bascially crushed my dreams of an Orioles world title....well that falls in the 7.
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