Originally Posted by voxsartoria
Maybe this is kind of a harrumph, but the new wave of pseudo-candid forvm photographs (influenced by Phatty and I think, The Sartorialist) makes for a new level of photographic interest that at the same time detracts a bit from the ability to use the photos for discussing clothes.
Doc Holliday had some good comments about this in another thread...I wish I could remember where. These new types of photographs up the ante for skill and time devoted to self-portrayal, and bring in tangential visual information that can be jarring or entrancing...stuff that used to be left to simple text.
For the last month, I've been doing them as well after getting a new camera that I keep in my case. It's kinda fun since I enjoy photography...but it is also time consuming.
What you are describing...true candid photography in volume...is essentially the preserve of celebrities. But even the biggest forvm celebrity of all...mafoofan...does not draw enough third party interest to produce a ready pool of candid shots.
Here's one of the few true candid photographs of me that I have posted:
And I agree with you that there is something about a truly candid photograph that communicates things that more contrived things do not. But, such is not plentiful enough fodder for an internet clothing discussion forum.
You make a thoughtful point, nonetheless.
I remember the points raised by Doc as well. I don't know, maybe it's that I find it a bit self-indulgent to take self-portraits all the time. When it's specifically for the sake of posting them on a men's forum, isn't it all a bit ghey (and I don't mean that in the homosex way)?
While I agree that there is true merit in taking pics to discuss clothes (your Steed threads come to mind), WAYWRN often has a `Hai guys, this is what I'm wearing. You like?` vibe.
As for candid pics: just this past weekend, I was over at our good friends' new house for a Labor Day weekend BBQ. Most in attendance ended up in the hot tub at some point. A few had cameras so I received pics of me horsing around with the kids' super soaker water guns... Surely I can't be the only one who gets his picture taken by friends, whether truly candidly or posed (but at their friends' request)?
Since you mentionned Foo, a candid pic of him that does come to mind is the one where he's raising a glass at his wedding. Why? Probably because he was snapped while actually doing something
rather than just posing. In that instance, the subject was much more interesting than the clothes. Other candid pics I recall involve the 1st SF SF meetup if I'm not mistaken. Among them was one of LK and PSG chatting it up.
Originally Posted by Phat Guido
- Yes, some of my pics are shit by who ever I am with at the moment.. Which is most of the time.
- I also started to have my female friends to not only be featured but to take the pics as well
- FWIW, I tend to start with similar series to concentrate on the FIT then followed by life style & candid pics.
- I have started to crop my face out as my privacy started to wane via SF stalkers.. I don't mind meeting, but I have a had a few weird encounters..
PG, my comments weren't aimed at you or anyone else in particular for that matter. In fact, I do like a lot of the pieces you post, both when considering the garment on it's own, as well as how you wear them and how well they suit you.
An alternative could be to hand the camera over to whoever is with you and have them snap away while you go about your business.
To be honest, I don't really know why I brought this up. While I enjoy clothes and discussing them, I only consider them a means to an end. Still, I do get a kick out of WAYWRN when I pop in from time to time. I just think it'd be better if there were more candid shots. Of course, that would mean there wouldn't be nearly as many posts. On the other hand, a digest might not then be necessary...
Originally Posted by TC (Houston)
I disagree with this perspective. Well, maybe not totally. I think the introduction of the pseudo-candid pics gives a lot of context to the clothing, and also can allow us to see the clothes worn more naturally than the living mannequin presentations. I agree that the posed still photos probably give us more material for discussing the technical aspects of tailoring, fit, etc., but then again, to me this is only a portion of the picture. As you mentioned in another post, clothing is for wearing and not for standing or posing. So while it's great to see posed pics to analyze the technical aspects of the fits, I think it is also great to see the pseudo-candid or action photos to understand how the technical interacts with the practical. I know you think your posed office pictures showcase the technical success of our clothing the best, but I was actually much more impressed to see how your wardrobe is worn. As impressive as it is in the kouros configuration, it's even moreso in the environments we can all relate to.
Likewise, I was really surprised to see how my clothing looks in action or in more relaxed and real settings. Sitting, walking, hands in pockets, arms folded, legs crossed, at my desk, in my car, etc. . . . in other words, the way the clothing actually sits on my body 99% of the time when I'm wearing it. In the still photos, it's easy to say, closer this, tighter this, shorter that, etc. etc. It is great to be able to analyze things from that perspective, but when you introduce pseudo-candid, action and context, you get even more of the picture.
Sorry for the ramble, my wife is giving me this look like get off the computer and pack. LOL
Anyhow, enough blabbing. To end this on a good note: PG, I really like that green woven bracelet I saw in you wearing in some recent pics. I'll like it even more if you said it only costs $5.