Something to ponder about: Is the media really pro-skinny when it comes to girls? - Page 3

I'm sorry but most models are still far healthier than the average "cute" but slightly chubby american girl. Most of them have bodies that are just meant to be thin. Not all of them have eating disorders, and many of them exercise.

This whole bullshit of the media portraying unrealistic bodies is such bullshit. The amount of girls who starve themselves pale into insignificance against the multitude of Kobe cows this country produces at an alarming rate. If this state of affairs reached certain tribes in Papua New Guinea or the deep Amazon, we'd need to stop worrying about N. Korea and Russia for a moment and contemplate the fact that many of the citizens here look like 5 star dinners.

This is something that people bitch about to offset attention from the fact that even most normal girls are slightly overweight. I think it's so stupid that dress sizes are being manipulated so that fat people can feel good about wearing a size 6 when it really is a 10. I'm sorry but most "girls next door" types have excess weight and it isn't remotely healthy. This whole business of "real women" is just to make all the seals at home feel better about the haagen daaz they're busy shoveling into their mouths while watching tv.

If anything, I think we need far more images of thin, active people who are capable of stopping their eating when they are full. Most of the rest of the people in the developed world understand this and that's why their average body shapes are so different from ours. Watch even UK TV shows and listen to their fat jokes. They make fun of Ricky Gervais for being fat. Here he'd just be an average guy.

That's interesting. One of the things I've noticed about BBC tv shows is that the women tend to have much bigger asses/hips compared to those in US shows.

Well it is true that British television often have much more ordinary people on television, but that's always been the case and I don't think it directly correlates to just issues of physical beauty. Britons participate more in fashion than Americans do and we all know which body types are glorified and which are not in that world.

Even as the fattest country in Europe and 2nd in the world (or maybe 3rd), they're far better off than we are.

You can say that again. It makes for a better watching experience most of the times though... Which body types are glorified by fashion do change from time to time though; from the extremely young and skinny to the runway's version of having curves.

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...thats only runway models

for mainstream TV they promote skinny, but not excessivly skinny

Fashion has almost always glorified the skinnier amongst the set. How skinny 'skinny' is has changed a little but it's never been as plump as all those really pale fat girls who are walking around today with 50s hairstyles and dresses (how do they think that looks good?).

I don't think fashion will change too much in this regard. Clothes just look better on very thin women.

Showing clothes the way they're shown on the runway works better on someone angular and with no curves to be honest. Same for dudes, when beefcake was in everyone looked ridiculous. Personally I'm disgusted by the idea of having more "normal" people on the runway, I mean that's not the point. Why not have cheap clothes too and maybe no guest list so everyone can participate. We could also hold the shows in Walmarts and have them designed by someone chosen at random.

Hahaha I can't say they disgust me. They really don't bother me. At least I tell myself this until one of them ends up sitting next to me on the train or on a plane and their fatness spills over their seat and onto me. They I think to myself: fat people disgust me.

My biggest issue is with overweight people who 1) won't admit whey have a problem, and 2) don't do anything to correct their weight. I have seen so many overweight people say that they're just "normal." Gah, this is infuriating. Being 20+ lbs overweight is not normal. Moreover, I hate when I see overweight people claim their problem is "genetic," and claim that they can't lose weight, then watch as they scarf down a hoagie, a 24 oz. coke, and a few cookies for lunch. Behavior modification people. Our culture has turned fat people into "victims" of genetic predisposition, rather than requiring them to own up for their self-destructive behavior. Meanwhile, I grab a cigarette and people who I've never seen before feel it necessary to tell me that I'm killing myself, why would I put the nails in my coffin, tell me I'm disgusting, etc. Fuck. You. Can I just walk up to a fattie who's stuffing his face and tell him that his body reminds me of overcooked suet puddling, that his eating habits make me want to vomit, and that his fatness is physically revolting to me? No, for some reason, obese people are victims. I remember reading articles for Law Review about including obesity under Title VII of the Civil Rights act. Now that would be revolting.

Well, if you're a smoker your habits do disgust me. I don't have much respect for fat people but their overeating doesn't have much effect on me, whereas your smoking forces me to inhale your vile fumes and makes my clothes smell of poverty. Fat people affect others on airplanes, but not in many other instances. Smokers are probably just as much of a burden on the medicare system as fat people, so frankly I don't think smokers can have any moral superiority to fat people whatsoever, and you should in fact be ashamed of yourself.

Non-smokers, if everything is equal, are a bigger burden on the system than smokers. As for your clothes we smoke outside so why do you care, is there no cars where you live? Go after them.

When I smoke in the comfort of my own home, on my back porch, you are forced in inhale my fumes? Or, when I am outside, nowhere near anyone, I am offending you and making your clothes smell of poverty? As far as I remember, healthy people are the largest burden on the health care system because 1) fat people don't go to the doctor, and 2) smokers die. Thin, active people who are actually concerned for themselves go to the doctor and cost more money, per capita, than others. Hell, if you smoke, I am all a fan for having you pay a huge increase in insurance premiums. Same if you drink or are grossly overweight. You choose. You pay. Ashamed? I choose to medicate myself when I am stressed or when I just feel like a nice relaxing smoke. It's legal. I enjoy occasional fine tobaccos like many here enjoy fine cars or clothing. I roll my own cigarettes from 100% U.S. Tobaccos w/o additives. I accept the risks of my actions. Morally superior? Well, I don't play a victim card when it comes to my vices. I am not blaming society for my choices. Many overweight people do. So, yes, I feel superior to those who blame others for their own decisions and refuse to accept the consequences of their actions. /soapbox.

I really don't give a shit at all and most of my friends are smokers, some of them heavily so. I was just saying that this guy, a smoker, should maybe get off his high horse about fat people if he too is choosing to do something unnecessary and unhealthy with his body.

Having to walk behind someone who is smoking isn't that pleasant, and yes it is true that that's the only place you have people smoking. But sometimes in hotels, condos etc... there's smoking and it really is disgusting. I also hate getting into a cab where some guy is smoking. I used to not care at all and was around 2nd hand smoke 24/7 but now I do. It isn't something I ever bitch about, because like I said, I have tons of smoker friends, but in the context of this discussion I don't have any qualms about speaking up.

As for healthy people costing more, I really don't believe that. A relatively small consult fee is quite small next to the extremely costly procedures that come from the many, many complications from heart disease, cancers, strokes, etc. not to mention all the chronic problems that burden the system with very pricey in and out patient care services. I don't think it even compares. No, smokers don't just die, they require lots of drugs, chemotherapy, ventilation equipment and all other sorts of treatment to stay alive after a lifetime of treating their body like a fireplace. Same with fat people. No they don't go to the doctor enough, but eventually they have to, and it costs big.

This thread is garbage without pictures of the type of females you all like.