^^ Yes, I paid $225 for the 1705s in mid 2013 from BiG. Haven't worn them like my 702s or 702BRs but they don't seem like they're going to do much in the way of fading compared to the darker, heavier denim. I got them primarily for use in the summer.
^202SPs are O/W. TTS @W33 were good & tight just right @waist. i have to admit it was a good fit TTS. but, as mentioned, i intended to "future-size" on them. i want them to fit comfy like my Cisco or 811s, instead of slim like the 701/702s or PBJ 007
from experience, denim jeans [in general] tend to have residual shrinkage down the line ... as they're washed more regularly. i want to make sure i get to keep/wear them past 5yrs, at least ... barring unexpected weight gain Edited by IIIrd Icon - 3/18/14 at 5:46am