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post #31 of 3349
Also, Context claim to be stocking Momotaro in the near future. Might help to get the name out there a bit more.
post #32 of 3349
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Yea I saw they were going to do that. Everyone on sufu is telling me I need to soak them but I dunno.
post #33 of 3349
Why are they saying that? Only interested because I didn't...
post #34 of 3349
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Well their saying it's a good fit but that they will be too small when they get wet in the rain or when I have to wash them. But I have room in the waist and thighs. I just like the way they currently fit and don't want to shrink them yet. I would never not soak unsanforized denim but this stuff is partially sanforized so I don't see the problem. If I sized up and washed them they would be too big after a little stretching so I think I'm still not going to soak. I really want to order those PBJ's too but I'm scared about the rise. I really like the rise on these 0201's. I can go a little lower but I think the PBJ's might be too low.
post #35 of 3349
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The only downside to not soaking is that LOT of indigo will come out on your shoes and possibly your clothing. They'll also take longer to soften up. The indigo has washed out of my clothes pretty well though - the sneakers are white, so I'll just bleach them after a while.

Hmm, I guess the soaking does something with the indigo because I haven't had anything wear off onto my clothes or shoes. Soaking them didn't bleed the indigo either, just so you know. Nothing blue came out into the bathtub, just yellow starch, both times.

-Ian
post #36 of 3349
^^ Maybe leave them as they are now, and if they end up stretching, give them a soak then. Probably the best bet. My guess is they will stretch just a tiny bit and soaking may not be a problem. Either way, I don't see it as a big deal.
post #37 of 3349
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Hmm, I guess the soaking does something with the indigo because I haven't had anything wear off onto my clothes or shoes. Soaking them didn't bleed the indigo either, just so you know. Nothing blue came out into the bathtub, just yellow starch, both times.

-Ian

Interesting... I got a fair bit on my canvas sneakers and a little bit on a white jumper (which washed out). Good to know there was no indigo loss during the soaks though. Makes me more relaxed about the idea.
post #38 of 3349
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Yea I saw they were going to do that. Everyone on sufu is telling me I need to soak them but I dunno.
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Why are they saying that? Only interested because I didn't...
some sanforized denim shrinks as much as an unsanforized ones. however, in my experience, sanforized ones tend stretch back out to raw measurements [ if it needs to ]__ eg, Skull 5010 6x6, SDA 203, Chimala, etc.

most untimely cases of stitch blow outs and fabric rips [ specially mini cracks along creases ] are attributed to not washing. raw denim is tough and brittle due to heavy starching [ w/c is necessary in weaving process ]__ not a good combination to force onto the contour of your body__ having tensile strenght of 100% cotton thread to hold you in does not help either__ not to mention mad size downs and putrefaction.

some say water is the enemy, but in reality it's your denim's friend. other than draining away excess/residual starch to make them pliable, it tempers the fabric like a curing agent. it enables the yarn to open up and tighten the weave hence, making the denim stronger__ greatly improves thread elasticity, as well.

if you're in a bind and they're thight as it is w/o a soak, do a partial soak. do a quick cold soak+hang dry below the crotch [ x2 if you got time and patience ]. then, do the the top block, but this time you need to wear them to dry to prevent them from further shrinkage. sometimes, i even douse the crotch with water cuz that area is prone to blow outs__ plus, it cools my radiator specially in the summertime.

things you do when you're young and got tooo much time on your hand... but, that was then
post #39 of 3349
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Yea I'm not so sure now. I think tomorrow I may go into the city. I'm going to stop by BIG and exchange them for 34's. I want to soak them now after reading about what starch can do so I'm just going to get 34's.
post #40 of 3349
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Well I went in to BIG and was about to get 34's but then I tried on some PBJ 007's which were too slim and too low rise and some Samurai 5000bk's and I actually exchanged the Momo's for the Sammies. I may still order the Momo's again but I'm going to wait and see how these Sammies turn out.
post #41 of 3349
How would you compare the cut of the 5000 to the 0201? What about the construction/quality?

I'm assuming you didn't have the Momotaros hemmed when you first bought them, right?

-Ian
post #42 of 3349
More details? Why the swap? Are the sammies a lot better? Should also note that the 5000BK's are known for their fairly significant stretching. Bit of info in this old thread - http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=34459
post #43 of 3349
'can't say better__ just different. 5000s are easy to like tho because of the details.

5000bk's heavier [@17oz], slubbier, and a tad lowrised than the momos. sizing is true, but you can easily size down 1 cuz they stretch plenty.
post #44 of 3349
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I don't know why really lol. I just liked them. They both are some of the best denim I've seen but it was just kind of an impulse thing. They are a pretty similar fit and construction is great on both of them. I'm waiting for the Sammies to dry and I think I may just order the Momo's again and have a rotation with two pairs. I'm looking at the Sugar Cane 1947's too so it's either going to be those or the Momo's.
post #45 of 3349
^ congrats!!! btw, if you're shopping for some SC '47s for cheap, check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sugar-Cane-1947-...d=p3286.c0.m14

those are deadstock. i was tempted, but just got too much on my plate + i already got__ great evo on the denim!
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