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post #16 of 28
8/7/09 at 12:25pm
worst idea ever. save up for real training.
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post #17 of 28
8/7/09 at 12:42pm
everybody wing chung tonigth!!!
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post #18 of 28
8/7/09 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by Flambeur View Post
worst idea ever.

save up for real training.

I second this. Training at home or with uneducated partners will = you wasting time, getting injured, developing bad form, and give you false confidence in your fighting abilities. No matter how hard you try, only an experienced teacher can tell you what you're doing wrong. Even the slightest mistake can lead you to bad habits.

When you have the money, look into Muay Thai. Very intensive workouts and great style for fighting.
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post #19 of 28
8/7/09 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by Flambeur View Post
worst idea ever.

save up for real training.


Wait a second, didn't the guy from the movie Old Boy teach himself?
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post #20 of 28
8/7/09 at 1:41pm
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Wait a second, didn't the guy from the movie Old Boy teach himself?

He also spent more then 5 minutes a day on it
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post #21 of 28
8/7/09 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by m@T View Post
ya. Even in the first Karate Kid movie Daniel-san was getting his ass kicked with this method...

Haha, you beat me to that.

Anyway, as others have said...very bad idea to learn by yourself via books, dvds, etc. Check your school and see if they have a boxing club or wrestling club. If you don't find anything, put up an ad on campus stating that you'd like to get a martial art club going. I'd look around. Boxing gyms can be very inexpensive to join. Some high schools have wrestling clubs that they open up to adults for practice. There are some drills you can practice at your home by yourself, but those are usually for timing, etc. Go out and learn from someone.
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post #22 of 28
8/7/09 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by inq89 View Post
I don't have any extra cash for lessons, but I've always wanted to learn basic self defense or maybe pick up a martial art. Just something practical and effective enough for everyday matters. So is self-learning advisable or even possible? And what would you recommend?

(Mano Mano/Kali or Krav Magna look cool. Anyway I can learn those by myself?)

I think you mean Krav Maga, and no you can't. Ever hear the phrase "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"? It applies REAL well to martial arts. If you want to learn self defense in a "What should I do if I'm getting muggged", any instructor worth his salt will tell you the same thing, give the mugger everything they ask for, and act only if you're sure the mugger is going to hurt you. If they tell you anything else, walk out of the class and demand a refund. If you are interested because you want to be able to handle yourself if someone starts something, Boxing is the most martial art that takes the least amount of time to become technically competent in*. It also tends to be cheap, even in DC I know of at least three boxing gyms that are ~$65 a month for classes, compare that with the $200+ per month of most Muay Thai/Krav schools. If your school has a boxing club it should be something like $65 a semester for dues.


*Competent meaning you're not going to hurt yourself or your sparring partner.
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post #23 of 28
8/8/09 at 1:49am
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Originally Posted by Flambeur View Post
worst idea ever.

save up for real training.

Guess that sums it up right there. Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll save up for the real thing or look for a buddy.
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post #24 of 28
8/8/09 at 1:59am
Generally a bad idea. But... there are exceptions. Evan Tanner apparently taught himself using DVDs.
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post #25 of 28
8/8/09 at 2:07am
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Generally a bad idea. But... there are exceptions. Evan Tanner apparently taught himself using DVDs.

Wasn't he a wrestler in high school? That would at least give you a base in something.
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post #26 of 28
8/8/09 at 10:50am
IF you are athletic and a visual learner and have good quality training materials, you can probably get some basic moves down if they are simple enough. For kali/eskrima/FMA you can probably learn the basic footwork drills and strikes, but the proper timing, tempo and spatial orientation needs a capable partner.
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post #27 of 28
8/8/09 at 12:28pm
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Wasn't he a wrestler in high school? That would at least give you a base in something.

I suppose that that's true. What about Rick Franklin then, who started off training with a friend in his garage? It may account for his rather unorthodox striking. It is as though he rediscovered some Karate and Kung Fu style punches and footwork all by himself. It might also explain why he came up so short against Anderson Silva in their first fight (although by that time, he'd obviously trained at better places then his garage), not having faced a world class Muy Thai fighter in training before.
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post #28 of 28
8/8/09 at 12:58pm
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I suppose that that's true. What about Rick Franklin then, who started off training with a friend in his garage? It may account for his rather unorthodox striking. It is as though he rediscovered some Karate and Kung Fu style punches and footwork all by himself. It might also explain why he came up so short against Anderson Silva in their first fight (although by that time, he'd obviously trained at better places then his garage), not having faced a world class Muy Thai fighter in training before.

According to his website
http://www.richfranklin.com/bio.php

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My story is an interesting one, and one that begins different from most…a second string high school football player who wanted nothing more than to play college ball. Since God had not granted me the size to pursue a college football career, I decided to get back into karate. It was something my father had put me into when I was 12, and I was hoping it would quench my competitive thirst.

I met and became friends with my instructor's sons, Josh and Shawn Rafferty. Shawn learned Thai boxing while serving in the Marine Corps, and together we took our current knowledge and added to it by training in styles other than what we were used to. At this point, I had my first taste of the UFC. After watching in disbelief that stand-up fighters could not keep a fight standing, I began studying some Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. We began training at a school down the road with a jiu-jitsu program, and we used Rafferty's father's facility to train. Training was short lived as our school shut down, and attendance dropped off at the jiu-jitsu classes. From there, we had no place to train, and refusing to quit, we cleared out an old shed in the Rafferty's backyard and continued to practice. Josh and I continued to practice in the shed, even in temperatures reaching as low as 40 degrees at some points and topping out at about 110 degrees. I would meet Shawn at the field house on UC's campus for supplemental training.

So according to this he had some training in karate, and trained regularly with his instructors son's who were also experienced in Thai boxing. He also had some actual instruction in jui-jitsu, although short lived.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is by far the exception that you'll get any real skill from only training alone or even with a partner when both of you have no previous training and are receiving no input from an instructor. More then likely it will just lead to bad habits you'll have to unlearn later.
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