Originally Posted by countbaron
this is where posts go wrong, I mean the "for only a fractionally higher price" when it is totally personal-circumstances based and thus meaningless
In the US and thus in SF there is all this craze about Borrelli, Isaia, Barba, Finnamore but in the UK I wouldn't know where to find any of that (a huge prize for anyone that just thought 'in the web dummy').
On the other hand, Canali is 'all over the place' and is available at very deep discounts ($70-80) during Summer/Xmas sales e.g at Harrods.
On a slightly different note, I suspect that most upper-middle class Italians never heard of them either. This is based on the fact that when I mention to many of these people the names of most of the italian shoes that get sold in the US at high price ranges ( like Santoni and Sutor) they never heard of it. I truthfully not been able to find any Italian that has heard of Santoni. True the people i talk too are not SF types but they are regular upper/middle management people; not some bums off the street. Some of them just go bespoke all the time, I mean they have a small scale shirtmaker, a shoe maker etc
All of this, just to say: does anybody buy Borrelli, Isaia, Barba, Finnamore, Santoni, Sutors outside the US (and China I guess). And if so does this mean you guys are being suckered?
if you talk of middle class in Italy I'm problably with you saying they don't know truzzi, sutor which is really nothing special and finamore, but already the entry middle class know santoni: how italians don't know santoni: maybe in the countryside where nobody care, but if then we speak of the upper class everybody know santoni, truzzi, borrelli, finamore and so on, and not cause obsessed of brands, but simply cause when "you" step in a store, a multibrand store, those brands are all there, it's impossible to avoid those brands, plus there are many others that I here on SF are completely unknown while here the majority of persons who wear those brands above have also some clothes of those brands unknown in US......ot at least here on SF....as is never good to generalize.
If I should make an interview here in Italy asking for example what brand of shoes they've bought for a cerimony or smth similar I bet the 40% would say santoni, the other 40% would say church's and the 20% from some other shoesmakers.....italian or english....no matter. ( I'm talking about middle upper class)
Then, for sure there are many italians who don't wear them, don't know them, can't afford them, but I don't think we're talking of those people here.