If you really dont need the insulation or goose down then CG jackets are overkill IMO, and non-insulated CG jackets are not worth the price since they're kinda new and wont be too much options on where to buy them and they most likely wont go on sale like the regular down filled CG jackets. Having said that, I dont think any CG jacket is worth its retail price, just wait for the sale or buy last seasons color and you can get it for at least 40% off the retail price, just look around on several webstores that carry clearance items and last seasons colors on sale, etc. Now, if you're dead set on getting a CG jacket, I would suggest the constable, its IMO the best fitting one out of all the CG down filled jackets (has an M65 style to it with 4 big outside pockets + 2 slated hand warmer pockets), it's not as puffy or thick as the chilliwack or the expedition yet just as warm when needed, also the patch is much smaller and on the side shoulder so not as noticeable as most CG "look at me" patches, it has a removable hood with no fur on it and lastly the 2-way side zippers make it a very versatile jacket since you can wear it when its not too cold with just a tshirt under it and the front and side zipps open, and it can also keep you really warm in super cold weather with a thick sweater under and fully zipped. I've tried other CG jackets before (mainly chilliwack, yorkville and expedition) and they're way too warm for temps above 5-10 C, even unzipped and with a tshirt under, constable is kind of unique in that way among CG jackets (side zipps and not as thick/puffy as others). Also the constable retails for around $550, I've bought 2 of them since I moved to Canada, I paid around $350 shipped for the first one from Gear up and I paid around $150 for the second one from some other webstore in the US that had last seasons colors on clearance , so you can definitely get a deal on them if you look around. Now, all that aside, if you just want something for wind and rain, go for something else, north face are pretty good for that, so I guess thats why they're soo popular but you should be able to find something similar to it that works for your needs.....