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Thinking of grabbing an entire JJvE outfit from the recent collection. Price pending, I reckon I'll just do it. So amazing.

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Originally Posted by Caveat View Post

High end watches serve a special purpose that is very hard to achieve in any other way: To subtly and tastefully convey the presence of wealth and power. It's a way of saying "I'm serious. I'm successful. I'm not a charlatan. We belong to the same club." without having your butler follow you around opening doors for you. This is very important in business and some unfortunate social circles. It's a very good reason to buy a high end watch and I don't want to sound cynical about it. But if you're not a part of this world and not trying to convey these qualities, then you're probably wasting money buying a high end watch. The exceptions being people that just absolutely LOVE watches or have more money than they know what to do with.

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High end watches serve a special purpose that is very hard to achieve in any other way: To subtly and tastefully convey the presence of wealth and power. It's a way of saying "I'm serious. I'm successful. I'm not a charlatan. We belong to the same club." without having your butler follow you around opening doors for you. This is very important in business and some unfortunate social circles. It's a very good reason to buy a high end watch and I don't want to sound cynical about it. But if you're not a part of this world and not trying to convey these qualities, then you're probably wasting money buying a high end watch. The exceptions being people that just absolutely LOVE watches or have more money than they know what to do with.



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post #97863 of 109053
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

I have absolutely no idea, what you guys are talking about, the only game I reconized was half life.

 

The only game I recognize is life. :fistbump:

post #97864 of 109053
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post


this is how I imagine my "golden years"

anyone here speak Japanese? Google translate is not cutting it on this one. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
状態は購入したシーズンに5回位着用しましたが、その後はクリーニングに出して着用しておりません。目立つようなシミ、汚れはございません。


 I'm assuming this is like a y!jp listing or something.

 

Basically, "Since the season I bought it, it's been worn 5 times and then cleaned and not worn since. No obvious/eye catching stains or dirt." I think.

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Originally Posted by Caveat View Post

High end watches serve a special purpose that is very hard to achieve in any other way: To subtly and tastefully convey the presence of wealth and power. It's a way of saying "I'm serious. I'm successful. I'm not a charlatan. We belong to the same club." without having your butler follow you around opening doors for you. This is very important in business and some unfortunate social circles. It's a very good reason to buy a high end watch and I don't want to sound cynical about it. But if you're not a part of this world and not trying to convey these qualities, then you're probably wasting money buying a high end watch. The exceptions being people that just absolutely LOVE watches or have more money than they know what to do with.

That's not really true, in the sense that even in milieus where these watches are more common you'll still find a majority of men don't wear them, don't care and don't notice. This is true of traders, businessmen etc.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

That's not really true, in the sense that even in milieus where these watches are more common you'll still find a majority of men don't wear them, don't care and don't notice. This is true of traders, businessmen etc.

I didn't say it was common practice. I just know that if that's your desire... to portray yourself as wealthy and successful when you're in an interview, networking at a convention, sitting in a cocktail lounge... there is no better way than to wear a $40K watch. Anyone can save up for a nice suit, but almost nobody with a $40K watch is faking it (unless they have a really good replica.)
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The only game I recognize is life. :fistbump:

 

Well, just take half of it and you have the one he was talking about.

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

Well, just take half of it and you have the one he was talking about.

I don't know about yours, but my life doesn't have nearly as many guns and crazy creatures, as half life had.
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Originally Posted by Caveat View Post

I didn't say it was common practice. I just know that if that's your desire... to portray yourself as wealthy and successful when you're in an interview, networking at a convention, sitting in a cocktail lounge... there is no better way than to wear a $40K watch. Anyone can save up for a nice suit, but almost nobody with a $40K watch is faking it (unless they have a really good replica.)

Ok but name me milieus (aside from 5 stars hotels ladies of the night) where they'll spot that stuff and care. It's a minority of the people even in these groups where we'd say this mentality is present. I guess you can say it participates in a grouped signal, along other signs of money/success/wasp shit but people who think messages are perfectly sent and decoded are simply not knowledgeable about communication.

My take on watches (this has nothing to do with the point above):
-Most are ugly
-Complications are usually very ugly
-People who like watches are usually idiots with bad taste
-I still have a few swiss watches so hey...
Edited by Fuuma - 7/14/14 at 7:43am
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Wearing a $40k watch into Hermes is the only way to get a green breast wallet on the first attempt.
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People who wear $40K watches are good at spotting $40K watches. Just like anyone on this forum is able to spot someone wearing CPs, MMM GATs, Schneider knits, RO leathers, etc. The difference being that to belong to the $40K watch club, you have to be, almost without exception, wealthy and successful. That's a powerful message to communicate to that exclusive group of people. That's all I'm saying.
post #97872 of 109053
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Originally Posted by Caveat View Post

People who wear $40K watches are good at spotting $40K watches. Just like anyone on this forum is able to spot someone wearing CPs, MMM GATs, Schneider knits, RO leathers, etc. The difference being that to belong to the $40K watch club, you have to be, almost without exception, wealthy and successful. That's a powerful message to communicate to that exclusive group of people. That's all I'm saying.

But people wearing 40k watches isn't a milieu, it is a market segment. Your initial argument doesn't make much sense if you can't illustrate it and I don't see it happening outside of watch companies executives or whatever.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

-People who like watches are usually idiots with bad taste

 

I'd say good taste and bad taste are entirely uncorrelated to liking mechanical watches.  The distribution of good taste is likely pretty much the same for people who like watches as it is for people who don't.   That said, I think that maybe your point is that there would be an expectation that if your hobby is multi-thousand dollar watches, you should exhibit higher taste than average - and that is not the case, so failing to meet that expectation may be something to highlight.    

 

Also, to your point, most high end watches are ugly - and they have a market.  But that's the same with every other designed product out there : most cars are ugly, most clothes are ugly and most furniture and appliances look awful.  Nothing better or worse in the world of horology - gotta find the good-looking stuff amid an ocean of disgustingness.   People with bad taste like the ugly stuff, those with good taste don't.

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 I'm assuming this is like a y!jp listing or something.

Basically, "Since the season I bought it, it's been worn 5 times and then cleaned and not worn since. No obvious/eye catching stains or dirt." I think.

Thanks so much. Yeah, y!jp. Google Translate version was something like "wore five position in the season purchased, we do not wear it out and then cleaning. Dirt is not."
post #97875 of 109053
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Originally Posted by Caveat View Post

People who wear $40K watches are good at spotting $40K watches. Just like anyone on this forum is able to spot someone wearing CPs, MMM GATs, Schneider knits, RO leathers, etc. The difference being that to belong to the $40K watch club, you have to be, almost without exception, wealthy and successful. That's a powerful message to communicate to that exclusive group of people. That's all I'm saying.

I don't run in rich and important circles, but this kind of thing strikes me as the sort of idea that people out-of-power have about how people-in-power work.

I suppose to your analogy, I can't imagine ever networking with someone, and then leaving with the idea "well, he had on MMM GATs, so he's definitely someone I need to take seriously."
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