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Originally Posted by LelandJ View Post

The states overall may have the most degenerate cultural values of any first world country.

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lol

did you also know everyone in america is 5th generation WASP?
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Chinese and Russians are very similar in a lot of ways.
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uhm...

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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Unrelated, but a portion of a larger post here, some plagiarized points to ponder:
  • in creating an object, does its maker retain an overriding privilege to its interpretation?
  • must the relationship necessarily be between the designer and the consumer?
  • a small man suffering from an inflated opinion of his own critical authority had said that its the narrative that ennobles the ordinary in clothing, elevating it to fashion.
  • that narrative as a PR measure, brilliantly wielded by some and ineffective in less capable hands. critics like to cling to this because it supposedly grants them some participation in the process.
  • plenty of buyers will give practically anything a chance when good words of endorsement have been written in this blog or that. for a season or two. but the kind of consumer will proceed on to whatever the next thing is just as quickly. in a world of pop-up shops, why are people surprised to see what amounts to pop-up labels?
  • reducing one's own relationship as 'wanting to be a a part of the designer's imagined universe' is pretty pervasive. those engaging in the sort of consumption (or afflicted with it?) are used to having things fully formed and ready for consumption. and, if one's goal is to be consumed as much as possible, it is helpful to have the sort of image that comes out the other end of popular consciousness after it digests you.

Everything to know about about tipping (and humility, and class warfare, and gender relations) can be found neatly dramatized in Silver Spoons S02,E14, "Mr. Cool".






(2:30 for the lazy)
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

Rich people can just be stingy for some reason--but it varies.

You don't get rich / stay rich by throwing your money around.
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

one person picks up the entire bill, with the assumption that someone else will pick up the bill the next time

The best way to do things.
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just don't be a dick
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

It's different depending on social class. I think middle class people have been very generous in my experience. Poor people, we pay for our own. There have been times where I went out to dinner with friends and just ordered a cheap appetizer because I was that poor. Splitting the bill in that case would have drove me nuts.

Rich people can just be stingy for some reason--but it varies.

Here's how I work this in a social setting.

Set up each group of food into categories. Appetizers, meals , drinks, desserts. Anyone can opt out of any of these categories but if you have any of them then you're in for a "share" of that part of the meal.

One person tells everyone to shut the fuck up and raise their hand if they had any appetizers/meals/drinks/deserts. Say 3 people get appetizers, 5 people get meals, 4 get drinks, 2 get desserts. Appetizer share is the cost of all the appetizers/3, drinks share is cost of all the drinks/4 etc. etc. Round up for all the shares. Meals might vary more so you go around and say "who got X? you owe $Y for that." but if it's just something shared like korean bbq then you just turn "food" into a share.

So each person figures out that they owe meal base + appetizer/drink/dessert share, if applicable. Then they add tax and tip on top of that.

Anyone who indulged a bit is encouraged to tip little bit more. If someone indulged a lot then everyone yells at them. Anyone who got some cheap shit can throw in a little less. If you're still short a bit, have everyone cough up a couple bucks.

No hurt feelings, no social obligation. It's easy enough to figure out if you're at least a little sober because everyone is calculating their own shit and you assume nobody's being an intentional asshole. Obviously with friends there's more leeway but with acquaintances everyone at least thinks its kinda fair.
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holy fucking shit is it really this hard for you guys to go out to eat with a group?
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the difference is that the OG situation was a birthday dinner for what it appears to be a bunch of medical school acquaintances.  it's not the same situation for where it's your buddies.  if some people want it to be super precise, let it be.  

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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

Here's how I work this in a social setting.

Set up each group of food into categories. Appetizers, meals , drinks, desserts. Anyone can opt out of any of these categories but if you have any of them then you're in for a "share" of that part of the meal.

One person tells everyone to shut the fuck up and raise their hand if they had any appetizers/meals/drinks/deserts. Say 3 people get appetizers, 5 people get meals, 4 get drinks, 2 get desserts. Appetizer share is the cost of all the appetizers/3, drinks share is cost of all the drinks/4 etc. etc. Round up for all the shares. Meals might vary more so you go around and say "who got X? you owe $Y for that." but if it's just something shared like korean bbq then you just turn "food" into a share.

So each person figures out that they owe meal base + appetizer/drink/dessert share, if applicable. Then they add tax and tip on top of that.

Anyone who indulged a bit is encouraged to tip little bit more. If someone indulged a lot then everyone yells at them. Anyone who got some cheap shit can throw in a little less. If you're still short a bit, have everyone cough up a couple bucks.

No hurt feelings, no social obligation. It's easy enough to figure out if you're at least a little sober because everyone is calculating their own shit and you assume nobody's being an intentional asshole. Obviously with friends there's more leeway but with acquaintances everyone at least thinks its kinda fair.

Usually the bill comes to me and I tell everyone to shut the fuck up. I go to each person "what the fuck did you have, what about drinks?" I'll tell them how much to throw down. On to the next person and the next. When it comes to my turn hopefully I've collected enough to avoid paying my share, tip generously and thank the waitress for the excellent service.
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nice jet biggrin.gif +1 on tipping generously
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post

holy fucking shit is it really this hard for you guys to go out to eat with a group?

and this
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do waiters not bring separate bills outside of canada? Depending on the restaurant, most will oblige to separate bills for each person at the table. easy peasy and enjoy the meal
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