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post #87766 of 109053
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Originally Posted by Bam!ChairDance View Post

So, what does everyone think of this last quote from the BoF article:
I'm not sure it's 100% valid quite yet. There's just such a massive selection of brands scattered about the interwebs that, until we get more hubs like FarFetch, make multibrand boutiques necessary just to make sense of it all and to give meaning to the chaos (like, your loyalty to one boutique has a filtering effect). Then again, maybe the multibrand boutiques are what's causing the chaos, and a switch to a primarily flagship model will make retail, both digital and b&m, tidier in general. But I'm interested in what y'all think.

 

In response to the article you posted, I wrote this on another forum - it doesn't immediately address your points, but does speak to the same situation (changing retail environment:

 

"I'm not sure how accurate this comparison is, but I see a lot of similarities with the music business.

 

Since record labels, music stores, and artists have to compete with free (that is, they have to offer better value than mass downloading) we're seeing a definite shift in the way that music is sold - I'd argue for the better.

 

It's no secret that the music business nefariously and perniciously skimmed obscene profis off the backs of the artists - to the point that, in Australia in the 1990s, a CD would cost $25-$30 and an artist would see somewhere in the vicinity of $.50 to $1 of that. Ridiculous!

Currently, more and more artists are choosing to sell direct which supports them a lot more because their margins are much more realistic (for a $10 DC sold through an online store one doesn't have to sell 100,000 to make a decent living). We're also seeing, at least in Australia, many more bands touring here as that's where their money is made - shows can't really be had for free yet so they are ways of making money - people wil gladly spend $50-$80 for an epic night out, but not so much for a record.

 

Comparing this back to clothes - retailers, again in Australia, are often accused of jacking up prices significantly (which, while too simple, is also fairly accurate) and degrading local industry. At the heart of those fairly emotional, economically ignorant and tired rantings is actually some simple truth: for a lot of these retailers no one's getting rich, but everyone's getting screwed.

 

However, like snopant, several new producers have started up recently - in the MC side of things - Henry Carter, Owen and James and Suit Shop - all of which provide better product, better service, excellent knowledge and are avilable and friendly (we'll regularly hang out). Which means that buyers are more likely to spend a premium, and also more likely to rebuy.

 

For one of the ventures (OJ) it was so successful the owner quit his 9-5 at one of Australia's largest banks and started a FT venture (suit shop). All these businesses are savvy, local, affordable and low overhead. Exactly similar to the success many bands operating mainly online are seeing.

 

For better or worse (and it really is a mixture of both) retail is changing - works for me as I live nowhere near anything of value B&M wise."

 

Ultimately, Atieler wasn't able to compete because of, as far as I can tell, a luddite/artistic sensability that could not cope with the margins of retail. Would any successful retail business ever, as it says in the BoF article, be nearly impossible to find? How does removing a customer base benefit keeping the doors open? Bizarre choices, poor business sense buoyed up by exclusivity and lack of competition (both now gone). That's how I see it, at least.

post #87767 of 109053

Gothic preists are just being covered too well by other stores. Darklands seems to be doing well for itself and they don't supply measurements (even by email) or have an online checkout.

post #87768 of 109053
They had a lot of sales associates for such a small store too, but the lack of an online shop presence and competitive international pricing probably hurt them the most.
post #87769 of 109053
This makes me wonder how Archive in SF survives. The local customer base can't be that big...
post #87770 of 109053
^I thought they closed down TBH...or was that another store? I thought the owner moved back to online space or something.

Also, Project Runway contestant worked there right?? YES nod[1].gif
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I think I'm losing my interest in fashion. It's not that I've stopped caring about how I look. It's just that I've stopped enjoying searching new stuff, so there's nothing I'd really want atm. I haven't even bought anything new clothing related for a while now (except beanie from Zam which was super nice and warm enough for cold Finnish weather).

post #87772 of 109053

Pissed off Buttero marked up their "limited edition" burgundy sneakers 400 fucking % over the regular price:

 

http://www.buttero.it/en/SNEAKERS-IN-SHELL-CORDOVAN-LEATHER---LIMITED-EDITION.html?RwDet=true&articoli_ID=184&language=1

 

They obviously have no shame, unlike the Japanese. Now my main option are CPs for burgundy but I'm still having a hard time buying into the gimmick number branded on the outside.

post #87773 of 109053
"They obviously have no shame, unlike the Japanese."

Wtf.
post #87774 of 109053
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Originally Posted by djt00 View Post

I think I'm losing my interest in fashion. It's not that I've stopped caring about how I look. It's just that I've stopped enjoying searching new stuff, so there's nothing I'd really want atm. I haven't even bought anything new clothing related for a while now (except beanie from Zam which was super nice and warm enough for cold Finnish weather).

there are lots of ways to sustain an interest in fashion without buying stuff, though, no?
post #87775 of 109053
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Originally Posted by djt00 View Post
 

I think I'm losing my interest in fashion. It's not that I've stopped caring about how I look. It's just that I've stopped enjoying searching new stuff, so there's nothing I'd really want atm. I haven't even bought anything new clothing related for a while now (except beanie from Zam which was super nice and warm enough for cold Finnish weather).

 

The junk/mediocre/bland to worth buying ratio is infinitesimally small unfortunately. (Un)luckily for me I'm used to that with vintage records, some days I'll look through 10,000 listings on eBay for 78s and not find one disc I want to bid on. The grind can be horrendous, however worthwhile.

post #87776 of 109053
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Originally Posted by thewho13 View Post

"They obviously have no shame, unlike the Japanese."

Wtf.

 

gdl just posted in recent purchases about how the Japanese don't gouge their buyers in relation to the states. Difference being I doubt Buttero will be offering 70% off these burgundies ever, which would decrease the mark-up over retail to 'just' 40%.

post #87777 of 109053
Cordovan is more expensive and harder to work with. Goddamnit you got me to click the button.
post #87778 of 109053
UPS may have lost these frown.gif

KVAN-MZ60_V2.jpg

first for everything
post #87779 of 109053
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Originally Posted by RegisDB9 View Post

Hugo Boss, LV, Tommy Bahama stuff like that. Does not believe in shorts or sandals

I like this guy
post #87780 of 109053

toasty,

 

You're kidding, what fucking high end retailer uses UPS?

 

Just realized my Peter Millar coat was just sent UPS. :embar:  (In my defense Neiman was in the ghetto category for me.)

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