my immortal playing during the friends series finale made me tear up ya'll
Originally Posted by conceptual 4est
Sadly I don't remember the details of a lot of what we talked about. My favorite part though and what I remember the best was the explanation of the proto-undercoverism crew (like the guy below, but I'll try to find more examples since they were so far deep in the site) and she said all of those guys were the type that had historically always been beaten up and picked on, so they created this uniform that was a blend of like hardcore with crusty and had weird medical overtones (that translated into what their female counterparts wore as well) to look a bit frightening but also still very fragile. I remembered this conversation after reading Breezy's post about how we present ourselves, and thought it was funny how a bunch of dweebs created what is almost universally "cool" or "badass" (or whatever other aggrandizing words we may use) in internet fashion circles and even the greater fashion circle in general. Takahashi is a big deal all around and so it's interesting what his inspiration came from.
Great post, wish you remembered more,
I dunno if anyone else fell into the horrible goth/bad punk/metal stuff in middle school and high school, but to me it's almost an exact reflection of what you said. The clothing wasn't "fashunz" back then of course, but it was still all about trying to portray a certain image. I know at least for me and a lot of the kids I knew, we weren't exactly popular and being picked on/insulted wasn't out of the norm. But when you wore those dorky big ass black pants with black straps and studded wristbands and eyeliner or whatever, kids didn't really bother you as much and pretty much avoided you. And like you said, it was very much a mixture of being frightening and frail, mixing "hardcore badass" stuff with things that were more feminine like nail polish, make up, skin tight jeans. Less frail in the medical sense, but frail imagery nonetheless for males.
I was never way too into dressing like that, but I hung out with a lot of people who did. I guess that's why I like Undercover so much... to me it's really kind of an earnest look, you know? Like the stuff he does looks goofy but really cool at the same time, easy to wear and lends lends itself to not be taken so seriously. It's like streetwear at its finest— lookin both like a dweeb and a cool bro at the same time. It's fun.