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Random fashion thoughts - Page 5096post #76426 of 1090533/26/13 at 6:28amuhh that article takes a weird fucking turnQuote:Was I homosexual because so much of what I wore is associated with gays? I did experiment. And while I don't think it is my sexual being, I can tell you that gay men as a group are nicer, smarter, have a shitload more fun than straight whites. Was I veering toward becoming a dominant leather master in the S&M scene, the leather fetish an obvious influence in most of the clothing I purchased and in much of high fashion itself? I did experiment. Was I a closeted or maybe not so closeted transvestite? Tom Ford makeup is divine; the right foundation and cheek blush and eyeliner and lipstick can do wonders for the pallid complexion. Thigh-high boots add to any wardrobe, although walking on six-inch stilettos for hours is just a bitch and therefore confined to the privacy of my house, seen only by the UPS man, who at this point could not possibly be surprised by anything. But a dress or skirt just doesn't look good on me, and I can't ever do a thing with my hair. The look I was going for was more David Bowie androgynous. It wasn't successful.post #76427 of 1090533/26/13 at 6:36ampost #76428 of 1090533/26/13 at 6:37ampost #76429 of 1090533/26/13 at 6:41ampost #76430 of 1090533/26/13 at 6:43amQuote:
Just noticed it in your sig but saw classified was closed. I really have no need for another Maine Guide or another Daiki corduroy jacket but I really felt like I'd get a thrill from buying it /buzzbissingerpost #76431 of 1090533/26/13 at 6:47amQuote:
Sure stevent, horse butt is amazing. And in all fairness to Alden they make (some) nice stuff.
But there’s just something unsettling about the place. The thread. I don’t know how to put it, it’s almost pervy. For some reason I imagine most regulars being stodgy types who work in finance. Employment at an investment firm or bank feels prerequisite to really be like a true member of the Alden Thread. One, the income it demands, but I’m pretty sure most of the wyw shots come from the MC side, men taking a break to post a flashed out image of a longwing or nst and always working the maximal amount of argyle into the frame. I would not be surprised if most of their socks were attached to garters. Don’t ask me why I just find that repellent. One guy always puts his shoes up against a mirror in the shot. I have no idea if this is the uncle guy, but it’s completely excessive and not unlike somebody whose life’s nexus is their shoe collection. I’m pretty sure the mirror is not full length and he just tucks it away in a drawer somewhere when he’s done.
And then there’s the uncle thing. Obviously you really work your way into the inner circles of the thread via veneration of McArthur or whoever’s Alden collection. He seems to hold something of a total cordovan eclipse over any dissenting voice about QC or inflated price points. Nobody acknowledges the QC issues because it harshes the mellow in the place. Sand in the vaseline sort of thing. You can continue the metaphor from there. But what else could you expect; this is their hobby. Mention ‘ravello’ and everyone gets extremely excited.
Could just be me, but you gotta expect the guys on the thread, the ones holding up the nephew part of that uncle correspondence, you got to imagine they don’t get too much attention from girls. Could just be me tho.
What I can’t figure out is if these guys are like this because of Alden, or if say people crazy about AE are the same. Is there some kind of intrinsic aesthetic to Alden, some kind of white collar New England thing I’m missing that strikes a chord with these guys and brings out this weird fascination with the brand.post #76432 of 1090533/26/13 at 7:05ampost #76433 of 1090533/26/13 at 7:32ampost #76434 of 1090533/26/13 at 7:33ampost #76435 of 1090533/26/13 at 7:46amQuote:
All you peasants wearing Aldens, wear some real shoes before talking.
(blah blah blah moronic e-peen contest)post #76436 of 1090533/26/13 at 7:51ampost #76437 of 1090533/26/13 at 7:57amQuote:It's mostly because it is what it is. They've been making effectively the same twenty or so designs and after a few weeks of following the thread you've seen it all, so there's very little to debate - you either like some of those designs or you don't, and those who don't have no reason to be in the thread (because it is of no interest to them).Originally Posted by dotcomzzz
What I can’t figure out is if these guys are like this because of Alden, or if say people crazy about AE are the same. Is there some kind of intrinsic aesthetic to Alden, some kind of white collar New England thing I’m missing that strikes a chord with these guys and brings out this weird fascination with the brand.
Keep in mind that this is the sort of devotion you see for "hype" brands. Alden is "hype" in its own way in that certain colors are rarely available and sometimes require serious logistical effort to obtain, but it still gets the veneer of classic menswear. So people get to indulge their innate hype sensibilities while still feeling classic. McArthur can be compared to a sneakerhead, but for something classic menswear-y - everyone recognizes a ravello straight-tip boot and recognizes its rarity (as if it were like an infrared or something), which isn't true of any other form of classic menswear that I can think of. It's why you get such a unique tone in the thread.
Plus, people continue to go back to the thread because of the rotating availability of shell. It can be rewarding to hang out in the thread in that you'll be aware when some new ravello drops. So people constantly keep reading it.
EDIT: Also - the fact that the shoes are effectively a shared language. Each Alden shoe can be perfectly described as a simple combination of five things - size, design, last, material, sole. So it's easy to communicate with one another and to grasp the "meaning" of a shoe. So if I say "size 11 straight-tip boot grant last cigar shell commando sole", it's perfectly communicable. This isn't true of any other brand, to my knowledge, and it allows people to imagine their "dream shoe" dropping. Wanting Allen Edmonds to make the Park Avenue on another last or with a different welt won't happen. But with Alden, you can always dream of your #4 modified last cap toe close welt... even if it will never be created. Because it is possible. Welcome to Alden, where dreams are feasible (but not probable). You go to the EG thread and you can just get the shoe you want made - that's hardly going to keep you coming back to the thread, will it?post #76438 of 1090533/26/13 at 8:06ampost #76439 of 1090533/26/13 at 8:25am
I like Alden's, but the thread is stuck in it's own island in it's own timewarp. It's the most viewed product thread on SW&D by a million over TOJ.
It's got the fanaticism of both the Epaulets and TOJ threads combined and more.
Plus, they don't use the thumbs system. Most of the time pictures will get quoted and requoted with a simple "nice". I think it's the demographic, skewed older. Can't use eRep or multi-quote. Nephew and uncle talk is a bit weird.
I heard MC over the wall is a bit weird. Maybe Alden belongs over there...but if it did, I would have never gotten some nice pairs.post #76440 of 1090533/26/13 at 8:40ami feel like my eyes just scroll past about 90% of the threads on here at any given time. alden is in that camp for me. though there is this weird voyeuristic feeling I get whenever i peek into that thread or the some of the other insular convos on here. it's like stumbling onto a group of rare primates in the wild or something. but then i realize the primates are just sitting around picking lice off each other and it's not too interesting to me so i go back about my business
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