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post #75421 of 99956
i have a biggish apartment (1400sqft? maybe?), and i feel its too big. just full of crap at this point frown.gif
post #75422 of 99956
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

I am going through a similar thing on the MC side. A few sport coats, several shirts, a few pants, and several ties, and a few pairs of shoes. I like it.

I remember reading a Manton post a couple of years ago about how he whittled his tie collection down to 10-15 ties that he'd wear on a regular rotation. At the time, I didn't think that I'd ever be able to get it down to that number. Lo and behold, I've got about 25 ties gathering dust in my closet while the other 15 get regular use. Sometimes it's just about wearing the shit you bought over and over and over to really figure out what you like and what you want to change.
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post

i'm actually going to put up a bunch of the clothes i don't wear anymore on b&s. a bunch of them are old LEC shirts, but if I can get $20 $5 out of each i'd be happy and my tiny closet would have more room.

FTFY
post #75423 of 99956

The only thing I'd need 15 of is underwear, socks, and MAYBE tshirts.

post #75424 of 99956
Rotation is such an ugly word I hate it
post #75425 of 99956
yes but without rotation, traffic would come to a halt
post #75426 of 99956
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

The only thing I'd need 15 of is underwear, socks, and MAYBE tshirts.

Eh, if you wear ties regularly (like Moo and myself) you are going to want a little bit of variety. There are some that get worn at least once per week, and then there are a handful that you breakout for certain occasions a few times per year.
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

I would also like to add that most of us on this site aren't millionaires, but we're not exactly broke either. We do spend a lot of money on accumulating stuff. There's a lot of lusting after things on here. The point is that getting that thing isn't going to make you happy for any extended period, and that point is relevant to the SF audience, whether it comes from a millionaire or not. I actually think that's something most of us realize, but it's good to be reminded every so often.

My problem with the article is that he comes off talking like he's discovered some new true happiness, as if figuring out that you should be spending money on things that actually make you happy is a new thing, all veiled under the ever so popular word "minimalism." The worst part is that he drops a bunch of popular problems (how shitty our food system is, GLOBAL WARMING) in order to further how shitty "consumerism" is and how he's changed oh so much. Oh, also always drop in a published paper, because that legitimizes everything you say. It's a shitty coming of age story or something that panders to rich folk written by a rich guy on the latest hip movement.

WAY too often people here throw around words like "consumerism" and "minimalism" or whatever for no fuckin reason, or like "I just bought a new pair of pants, I'm such a product of this consumer electronic space age!" It's funny how often even members of SF look down upon buying clothes, as if you should be guilty for buying a lot of clothes, and that's just crazy to me. Why do this? How many of you let clothing control your life? How many people here would actually trade that summer you had with that one pretty girl for a leather jacket, or how many of you would trade some of your most fun nights at bars with your friends for a pair of reversed lion backzips? Why do we need to constantly be reminded that our hobby has its basis in consumerism and done so in such a condescending tone, as if we don't know what we're doing, as if we're perpetually unhappy and devoid of any real life experiences because we happen to spend 4,000 posts on finding the perfect white low top sneakers and $600+ on jackets?

I don't know man, I get where he's coming from and on the broadest term I agree (spend money on things that will actually make you happy), BUT 'minimalism' is overrated, having less stuff = happiness is not necessarily true, and someone PM me a link to some ann d white lows.
post #75428 of 99956

why isn't the fedex guy coming with my new walllet, shoulda been here over an hour ago confused.gif

post #75429 of 99956
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Originally Posted by sipang View Post

Rotation is such an ugly word I hate it

Eh, some of us live our lives in a certain amount (okay, a lot) of routine and repetition. In that context, I don't see rotation as something adverse, but rather a comfortable component of dealing with the life I've established for myself.
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Originally Posted by Bam!ChairDance View Post

yes but without rotation, traffic would come to a halt
I'm gonna petition the mods to have the rim shot smiley renamed the BCD! smiley.
post #75430 of 99956
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

Why is it ahistorical? People have been practicing giving up or limiting possessions for a long time, especially in the east. And not sure what the landed gentry has to do with any of this. You think people on here are accumulating stuff for the sakes of their families, that the ancestral family home has been supplanted by the ancestral collection of Rick leathers?

Not at all. I am saying that the idea that finding satisfaction through the consumption of "experiences" instead of "material possessions" is a historical phenomenon that wasn't present before, not an universal principle. It ties in a lot more to creating an artificial (and false) social structure and community to replace the real ones that used to exist and satisfy us. Market-democracies fuck more than factory workers, they basically destroy the very fabric and values that make social life possible and rewarding, at some point we'll have run out of the shambles of values inherited from various pre-fuckup cultural currents and we'll be hopelessly disconnected and self-centered assholes with absolutely no redeeming value.

Tangentially related.
http://www.granta.com/Archive/92/How-to-Write-about-Africa/Page-1
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

This whole new-agey "spend your hopefully considerable amount of money to gather soul-enhancing experiences" is such ahistorical bullshit. You think the landed gentry was sad about slowly spending money on more land instead of bikram yoga, trips to Goa and personal trainers? The strong personal and symbolic ties that linked them to their ancestors, immediate and even extended family, social class and community gave meaning to what they bought. A bunch of whiny yuppies in their 30s and 40s are crying over their meaningless buying of random shit they saw on tumblr because they have no one to share it with and no one fucking cares about their $500 dollars sunglasses so they create an entirely fictional relationship to a holistic universe and globalized world by taking pilates class in Katmandou, fuck these people!

I love Fuuma rants, but I have no idea wtf this is all about. I mean, it hits a lot of chords with me anyway, but it's all scattershot.

Anyway, I am the 24th unbroken generation of my family, and my kids and nephews and nieces are the 25th - my family traces back to the extant ancestral village, and is at least five hundred years old. I personally think of myself as a part of a continuum, and myself, the individual, as just part of my family history.
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I WANT THE ANN D LOWS

post #75433 of 99956
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Originally Posted by g transistor View Post

Why do we need to constantly be reminded that our hobby has its basis in consumerism and done so in such a condescending tone, as if we don't know what we're doing, as if we're perpetually unhappy and devoid of any real life experiences because we happen to spend 4,000 posts on finding the perfect white low top sneakers and $600+ on jackets?

haha, fair point. look, i'm not saying everyone on here is a miserable bastard because they like buying stuff. i like buying stuff. i posted it because it's relevant to the audience on here, myself included. i am surprised by how strongly some people reacted to that piece since, as you point out (and as I've pointed out too), it's nothing new. i'm also surprised that people have gotten so defensive. honestly I think that says more about the person responding than it does about the piece.

oddly enough, those 4,000 posts spent in pursuit of what you want are arguably more gratifying than getting what you want: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/01/study-wanting-things-makes-us-happier-than-having-them/267216/

also, for the record, i find studies interesting but just because a study finds something doesn't mean it's true. i always keep that in mind when i read these things.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Not at all. I am saying that the idea that finding satisfaction through the consumption of "experiences" instead of "material possessions" is a historical phenomenon that wasn't present before, not an universal principle. It ties in a lot more to creating an artificial (and false) social structure and community to replace the real ones that used to exist and satisfy us. Market-democracies fuck more than factory workers, they basically destroy the very fabric and values that make social life possible and rewarding, at some point we'll have run out of the shambles of values inherited from various pre-fuckup cultural currents and we'll be hopelessly disconnected and self-centered assholes with absolutely no redeeming value.

i think that's reaching quite a bit. just my opinion
Edited by pickpackpockpuck - 3/11/13 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post

it's nothing new. i'm also surprised that people have gotten so defensive. honestly I think that says more about the person responding than it does about the piece.

It's interesting; I just think it deserves a sturdier conceptual framework, and probably a better sense of class awareness.
post #75435 of 99956
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

I love Fuuma rants, but I have no idea wtf this is all about. I mean, it hits a lot of chords with me anyway, but it's all scattershot.

Anyway, I am the 24th unbroken generation of my family, and my kids and nephews and nieces are the 25th - my family traces back to the extant ancestral village, and is at least five hundred years old. I personally think of myself as a part of a continuum, and myself, the individual, as just part of my family history.

This is why Chinese people don't spend their whole lives whining about their whole lives but don't worry, we're contagious; we gave you anorexia, authenticity is next.
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