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post #74851 of 100926
Maybe on ebay, but on styleforum an agreement is no more serious or binding than an initial statement of interest
post #74852 of 100926
Coming from the other end it always annoys me when someone says something they're selling is 'on hold'. But then again if you're the seller and you're willing to give somebody your word that you'll hold something for a (limited) amount of time then there's a little more at work than pure transactions. Like maybe a less salient but quite valuable component of community or something.

Also sounds like the guy didn't tell Volatile about selling the item until after he (Volatile) paypalled him (the seller). Wasting my time and going back on your word would both stick in my craw too.
post #74853 of 100926
I agree with bam, but I give people 2 days to pay where I'll tell everyone else I'm holding it. Too many times I have told others that the stuff has sold only to hear back from the original buyer flaking a few days later (myself included, because shit happens), even after agreeing on prices and sending paypal info. This also ties into how well I know the buyer, and of course I'll go to greater ends to accommodate people who post often on the forums/people who have bought from me in the past.

Random buyers? "I don't believe in fairy tales or sermons or stories about money, baby sister. But thanks for the cigarette."
post #74854 of 100926

How I see it, is that the only thing that matters is whoever says they're 100% sure first.

If you want to buy something from me and you're the first to tell me you're 100% sure, I will sell it to you no matter if there were 10 others before you, or if there is someone after you who could offer more or/and faster thumbs-up.gif

 

(well to a limit I guess, but all the people who I've had business with have all sent money within a day, so I guess I've been lucky)

 

edit: I can see how ^this won't work for people selling loads of cool stuff though, would be too complicated.

If I in the future have +5 classifieds I'll probably make it very clear in the ad that whoever sends me money first gets the piece


Edited by kindofyoung - 3/4/13 at 6:25am
post #74855 of 100926
Yeah, that was my point. If a buyer says "Deal. Send me your paypal." and you send it, then it's pretty inconsiderate to sell it to someone else the same day without at least a message saying "Hey need the money within 2 hours. I've got another buyer."
post #74856 of 100926
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Originally Posted by dotcomzzz View Post

Coming from the other end it always annoys me when someone says something they're selling is 'on hold'. But then again if you're the seller and you're willing to give somebody your word that you'll hold something for a (limited) amount of time then there's a little more at work than pure transactions. Like maybe a less salient but quite valuable component of community or something.

Also sounds like the guy didn't tell Volatile about selling the item until after he (Volatile) paypalled him (the seller). Wasting my time and going back on your word would both stick in my craw too.

Yep, exactly. Deal agreed at Mar 1, 2013 at 4:37 am (he's in a different timezone to me so I didn't see it until I checked my phone about lunchtime on the 1st) and PayPal went out Mar 3rd at 4:44PM. He didn't message me to tell me he had another offer or that the other guy had already paid him. Is it totally unreasonable for a payment to take a two days over a weekend?

I'm not majorly annoyed, but it's interesting to hear the feedback from both sides of the table.
post #74857 of 100926
Like g tran, if I know someone and I'm not in a huge hurry to sell I'll be more lenient with payment, but in general the first person to put money in my PayPal account gets the item. I've gotten burned a number of times by people saying they are 100% going to buy, I ignore other offers while I wait for them to pay; and then they flake off
post #74858 of 100926
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Originally Posted by kindofyoung View Post

The best solution for sellers that imo seems both fair and simple, is to only care about whoever says they're 100% sure first (and to make that clear if someone expresses interest)
If you want to buy something from me and you're the first to tell me you're 100% sure, I will sell it to you no matter if there were 10 others before you, or if there is someone after you who could offer more or/and faster thumbs-up.gif

That's exactly how I work, and how I hope others will...
post #74859 of 100926
That looks like 2.5 days between the deal and the payment, so you don't really have a beef IMO. If someone doesn't paypal me at least by the next day then they can't expect me to hold it.
post #74860 of 100926
yeah it was pretty shitty of the seller not to tell you about the other buyer

But a buyer agreeing to a price and asking for paypal information really shouldn't bind the seller, since the buyer can duck out of the deal as he pleases

contrast this to ebay, where a written agreement to buy really is binding, and if either buyer or seller flakes, there's serious consequences (within ebay at least)
post #74861 of 100926
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Originally Posted by Caveat View Post

That looks like 2.5 days between the deal and the payment,.

Sure, it's a literal 2.5 days but as we're on the opposite side of the planet from each other, I think the hours between (my) 4am and (say) 10am shouldn't really count - and do you all sit hunched by your computers all weekend?

But yeah, fair enough. I think it's a pretty shitty way to behave but I'll consider it a lesson learned. To me, a deal's a deal and a couple of days over a weekend doesn't change that, but I'll know for next time. It's been really interesting to hear the contrasting views, at least!
post #74862 of 100926
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Originally Posted by volatile View Post

and do you all sit hunched by your computers all weekend?

Ask not lest ye be answered.
post #74863 of 100926
Anyone have experience with Hope shoes? I've seen a few I've liked the look of, but wondering how they feel and hold up.
post #74864 of 100926
I've never handled Hope's shoes, but if they're anything like the Fifth Avenue Shoe Repair shoes I've handled, they'll have pretty nice leather but cemented construction
post #74865 of 100926

2.5 days is a long ass time in the world of B&S, smart phones and flaky buyers.  

 

If you have no access to a computer, then what's the point of him sending a courtesy message--wouldn't have gotten it in time.

 

If you do have access to a computer, then did you send him a courtesy "i'm going to pay in 2-3 days message"?  Why sit on your hands?

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