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post #68701 of 98867
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

because they're a generic dress shoe that's appropriate for things like funerals or formal job interviews. there are events where personal stylistic proclivities have no place - you don't want to push the boundaries at a wake.
that being said he should have a nice generic suit too.

I disagree with this fully. I'm not sure with artishard does for a living, but it seems like it'd be in a creative field. You wear a generic Brooks Brothers suit and some Park Avenues to one of those interviews and they'd probably be looking for the next candidate. As for a wake, there's nothing wrong with wearing a simple dark suit (no Plokhov zipper elbows) and black derbies. No one will think you look out of place or are being offensive; hell, half the people will probably show up in jeans or at best badly fitting button ups with logos on the chest and khakis.
post #68702 of 98867
The issue to be understood here is that in standard corporate america type scenes, the clothing does most of the time max out with brands like Allen Edmonds. Even the AEs are stunting on most people's footwear. If you come in with Butteros or Guidis on, you're gonna look like a ninja in comparison and people are gonna notice. Not what you want at a job interview for the corporate world and not what you want at a funeral. But I don't think KingJulien means pushing boundaries that far.
post #68703 of 98867
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

I disagree with this fully. I'm not sure with artishard does for a living, but it seems like it'd be in a creative field. You wear a generic Brooks Brothers suit and some Park Avenues to one of those interviews and they'd probably be looking for the next candidate. As for a wake, there's nothing wrong with wearing a simple dark suit (no Plokhov zipper elbows) and black derbies. No one will think you look out of place or are being offensive; hell, half the people will probably show up in jeans or at best badly fitting button ups with logos on the chest and khakis.

I disagree with this. There's a certain 'standard' that exists in men's dress in America, and when you deviate from that standard you can attract attention. That might be fine in certain contexts (or even expected, as in interview in the artistic community), but it's also extraordinary rude in other settings. You should own a pair of bland, inoffensive dress shoes and a bland, inoffensive suit for the times you want to be bland and inoffensive. I think a funeral or a wake is a good example of one of those times.
post #68704 of 98867
alden cap toe boots #8 are my interview and funeral shoe
post #68705 of 98867
that depends on the job interview. Yes, if it's "in creative" (i'm getting a little tired of how we talk about only one area of "real jobs" that can be thought of as being "free") then by all means, wear whatever. but we're not talking about that. we're talking about funerals and "formal" (which i would take to mean "not creative") job interviews.
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As for a wake, there's nothing wrong with wearing a simple dark suit (no Plokhov zipper elbows) and black derbies.

I expect Teger would agree.
post #68706 of 98867
also a pair of clean black derbies is a not a pair of shiny wedge soled common projects with gold lettering on the side.. if you want to be 'adventurous' get some double leather soled tricker's or something.
post #68707 of 98867
Raf/Jil derbies were also listed as an option. Those would suit you perfectly well in almost all contexts.
post #68708 of 98867
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

I disagree with this. There's a certain 'standard' that exists in men's dress in America, and when you deviate from that standard you can attract attention. That might be fine in certain contexts (or even expected, as in interview in the artistic community), but it's also extraordinary rude in other settings. You should own a pair of bland, inoffensive dress shoes and a bland, inoffensive suit for the times you want to be bland and inoffensive. I think a funeral or a wake is a good example of one of those times.

Very, very few people would notice anything other than that you're wearing "a suit with dress shoes"


honestly, I don't think most people would even notice wedge soles as long as they were the same color as the rest of the shoe.. . (as long as there's no shiny-ness or contrast soles, etc)
post #68709 of 98867
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Originally Posted by Meis View Post

Very, very few people would notice anything other than that you're wearing "a suit with dress shoes"
honestly, I don't think most people would even notice wedge soles as long as they were the same color as the rest of the shoe.. . (as long as there's no shiny-ness or contrast soles, etc)

You'd show up at a big law / consulting / finance / etc. interview with wedge soles? You must be a genius/have amazing references.
post #68710 of 98867
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

You'd show up at a big law / consulting / finance / etc. interview with wedge soles? You must be a genius/have amazing references.

Did I say that? You did read the "very few people" part, right? Meaning not 100% of people. Yes, for those some might notice but that's a very small minority.
post #68711 of 98867
why take the risk? why not spend $40 to have a pair of shoes you know won't offend anyone, ever?
post #68712 of 98867
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

Raf/Jil derbies were also listed as an option. Those would suit you perfectly well in almost all contexts.

this. no one you meet in the corporate world is going to notice the slight bulbous toe and berate you for not wearing c&j.
post #68713 of 98867
Most of the people there won't know what the fuck the difference is between their shoes and yours, anyway. Thankfully a loved one hasn't died in my family in a long time, but when it inevitably happens I'll be sure to get through it all without wondering if Teger thought my clothes might offend someone.
post #68714 of 98867
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

why take the risk? why not spend $40 to have a pair of shoes you know won't offend anyone, ever?

I'm just saying you don't have to, and that the vast majority of people won't notice what shoes you're wearing as long as they're not really attention grabbing and generally look similar to regular dress shoes. Personally I have exactly what you posted. I've got a pair of Park Ave's that I picked up off ebay for super cheap a while back and use for interviews/etc.

Edit: pretty much what snake said a few posts above
post #68715 of 98867
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Most of the people there won't know what the fuck the difference is between their shoes and yours, anyway. Thankfully a loved one hasn't died in my family in a long time, but when it inevitably happens I'll be sure to get through it all without wondering if Teger thought my clothes might offend someone.

I think your shoes are going to be the least of your problems when it comes to toning it down.
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