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I also don't even know if saying that fast fashion is bad because the cheap, poorly made goods don't last very long and therefore the consumers purchase more of them is even a legitimate argument. Couldn't you easily say that the artisan slaving away over a single pair of $3,000 boots is more 'wasteful' in terms of labor spent producing a pair of shoes that only one person can use?

The root problem with his article is that he's trying to defend what's really indefensible. His site (and now that he has a magazine, his business) is premised on the idea that there exists a small group of educated and thus truly fashionable consumers who are beyond trends, and that cost is one of the barriers to entry to join this group. That's fine, but trends clearly influence this small subset as much as they do any other group - artisan products themselves are a trend - and price is clearly, as Fok pointed out, not a gateway to a more knowledgeable consumer.

You could make an argument that the collaboration is somehow betraying the Margiela's original design vision, but he chose to sell his brand, so I don't have a lot of sympathy for that argument.

Marketing buzzwords aside, the democratization of fashion is a real thing, although it has much more to do with the internet than H&M and Zara. Look at someone like Tavi Gevinson - she's a teenager who, through the internet, was able to interact with fashion luminaries. The walls between "consumer" and "fashion insider" are starting to break down, which is a great thing in my eyes.
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a guy i know was attacked by a man wielding a U-lock right outside LN-CC. true story
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I like the fact that his entire premise is based on knowing "fashion in the original sense of the word", which is highly subjective. And, his subjectivity seems rather elitist.
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What's even funnier is that SZ is a site has all the characteristics of the awful H&M consumers who just don't know what fashion is.
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MMM = U-lock

HMxMMM = chain lock

true Fashion = your bike

consumerism = bike rack



thank you for your time
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I would argue that there are plenty of people like that here, too, Teger. What turns me off is the BUY BUY BUY of a particular brand, only to never actually wear it, or obsess over owning the same thing in five colors. But in the end, who the hell cares what other people are wearing, anyway?

I just realized my hypocrisy, though, while eating some Amarettini di Saronno Originali and simultaneously being disgusted by the thought of the masses munching on entire bags of Oreos. You call that a fucking cookie? (10)
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I would argue that there are plenty of people like that here, too, Teger. What turns me off is the BUY BUY BUY of a particular brand, only to never actually wear it, or obsess over owning the same thing in five colors. But in the end, who the hell cares what other people are wearing, anyway?
I just realized my hypocrisy, though, while eating some Amarettini di Saronno Originali and simultaneously being disgusted by the thought of the masses munching on entire bags of Oreos. You call that a fucking cookie?

Sure, SF right now is super consumeristic (I've made a bunch of posts on this subject earlier), but the difference is that SZ as site is premised on being 'outside' (and thus better) the consumerism of mainstream fashion. I also personally find it hilarious that a site about an extremely small fashion niche is called 'stylezeitgiest'.
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guy at the bike shop rec'd a chain lock so that's what I got. What's the difference between the two (function-wise)?

This is what I have been using for 4 years almost every day around Atlanta. Learn how to lock your bike up too, but depending on what you're locking it up to you may not be able to do the frame+back wheel with the mini lock. I just prefer the mini cause it fits in my back pocket/lighter if I need to put it in a backpack.
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Sure, SF right now is super consumeristic (I've made a bunch of posts on this subject earlier), but the difference is that SZ as site is premised on being 'outside' (and thus better) the consumerism of mainstream fashion. I also personally find it hilarious that a site about an extremely small fashion niche is called 'stylezeitgiest'.

Teg it's okay we all know you're salty because you wear clothes and not fashion.


But really, Faust is as bad as the MC guys who think they know the key to Tʀᴜᴇ Tɪᴍᴇʟᴇss Sᴛʏʟᴇ and everyone else is gauche / base / ruining it for them. Dude is caught in that middle school mentality where if someone different likes what you like it's not cool anymore.
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I really like the silhouette of this Geller blazer/cardigan/jacket (because it's really an amalgam of the three.) Not sure what the poly is like in person. My first reaction is to say "Ugh, wish it was wool". but the truth is often not that simple. There are some great polyester fabrics out there in 2012. I have a few old 6876 xOki-ni pieces from the pre-designer, streetwear collaboration based, Oki-ni, in polyester, and the materials were pretty fantastic:

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The article was basically:

"Here's some bad things about consumerism...it's because of fast fashion!"

Fashion embraced consumerism from the inside. You're not any less of a consumer when you buy real Margiela.
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