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post #64801 of 99781
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Both the positive and negative reviews of Saint Laurent boil down to the same thing: Hedi stuck to what he was good at. Yamamoto gets the same criticism levied at him constantly. Why do we want designers to constantly change their vision every season? Can you really be a fan of a designer who does ninety degree turns every six months?


Can't agree more - much rather see refinement over the years rather than trying something totally new and reinventing the brand twice a year. One of the reasons I so steadfastly support Gareth Pugh is that, at the very least, he's stayed uncompromisingly true to his original vision and background.

post #64802 of 99781
The thing is, for better or for worse Hedi's vision and background have become fashion's vision and background over the last decade or so (tough luck), and since that vision was always pretty superficial you can only spread it so much before it starts to feel really repetitive and cliché. When you combine this with the recycling of YSL boho chic elements, you get a collection that smells like a museum before it's even hit the floor. I'm all for refinement but this ain't it. Also don't think it's fair to throw Yohji in the discussion, context is way different anyway.

Somewhere, Pilati is laughing up his sleeve.




On the other hand I never gave a fuck about DH and Hedi so ...
post #64803 of 99781
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Both the positive and negative reviews of Saint Laurent boil down to the same thing: Hedi stuck to what he was good at. Yamamoto gets the same criticism levied at him constantly. Why do we want designers to constantly change their vision every season? Can you really be a fan of a designer who does ninety degree turns every six months?

I've only glanced over the shows, but having a consistent vision is not the same as releasing the same collection, or having no interesting way of sharing said vision. There are more complex themes than "black and drapey" even within yohji collections, let alone across them.

The collection to me looks exactly like a fusing of slutty rocker and ysl aristocracy. Exactly what you'd expect. Nothing wrong with the clothes, just not particularly inspiring.

If he's going to theme it exactly as we'd expect, I'd hope he at least had an interesting way of showing that theme.

This just looks to me like anyone at home could say "I'm going to wear my YSL pieces with a bit of Hedi" and pick items from their wardrobe. There's basically no point in having it on the runway.
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The thing is, for better or for worse Hedi's vision and background have become fashion's vision and background over the last decade or so (tough luck), and since that vision was always pretty superficial you can only spread it so much before it starts to feel really repetitive and cliché. When you combine this with the recycling of YSL boho chic elements, you get a collection that smells like a museum before it's even hit the floor. I'm all for refinement but this ain't it. Also don't think it's fair to throw Yohji in the discussion, context is way different anyway.
Somewhere, Pilati is laughing up his sleeve.
On the other hand I never gave a fuck about DH and Hedi so ...

maybe I would've if I was interested in fashion back then, but this is the way I feel.
post #64804 of 99781
It's got a little Stevie Nicks / Laurel Canyon 70s vibe to me. (nttawwt) I still like his general skinny bitchy rocker thing.

new logo SLP not at cool as YSL tho.
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Thinking of shaving my head. Good idea / bad idea?
post #64806 of 99781
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post

It's got a little Stevie Nicks / Laurel Canyon 70s vibe to me. (nttawwt) I still like his general skinny bitchy rocker thing.
new logo SLP not at cool as YSL tho.

Haha, I thought the exact same thing. It's pretty inescapable.
post #64807 of 99781
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It's got a little Stevie Nicks / Laurel Canyon 70s vibe to me. (nttawwt) I still like his general skinny bitchy rocker thing.
new logo SLP not at cool as YSL tho.

he did just move here so that influence makes sense

post #64808 of 99781
I didn't think the SLP collection was bad but it didn't seem that exciting. I didn't really care for the leather or jeans. The hats were pretty cool but a bit gimmicky in retrospect. The whole collection feels more boring without them so I can see why he had all the models wear them. I must admit that there were certain looks I liked a good bit on their own though.
post #64809 of 99781
i really liked it. i thought it was very inspiring. i didnt like the leather pants either. loved the hats. its like hedi took the past few years and let his ideas age in his head and the flavors mellowed out and became more refined and balanced. the only thing is like hendrix mentioned everybody else has been doing it during and while he was gone and it seems stale in comparison. the first thing i thought when i saw the collection was ann d
post #64810 of 99781

Reminds me more of Theyskens' than Ann, her most recent collection notwithstanding.

post #64811 of 99781
How can this be the "same collection" when this is Hedi's first womenswear collection?

We're so conditioned to expect some crazy level of artistry and esoterism in runway shows that it's easy to forget that they're ultimately for buyers and for press coverage, not art shows. Hedi didn't blaze any new trails but he released a very beautiful, very focused collection full of wearable clothing. Honestly, that's good to me. Maybe I'm just not intellectual enough to appreciate fashion on such a level, but I prefer good clothes over statements. I guess it's no coincidence that most of my favourite brands release variations on the same pieces every season ...

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I don't think Hedi should be held accountable for others aping his aesthetic, anyway.
Edited by brad-t - 10/1/12 at 8:10pm
post #64812 of 99781
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

CdG this season (or even the past few),

but White Drama was so good...marchal.gif
post #64813 of 99781
I edited that part out since I don't want to argue about it really. Oh, well.
post #64814 of 99781
It's about the logo on the front, not the name on the back.


post #64815 of 99781
^Dig the haircut, probably could not pull it off myself
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