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post #63046 of 103563

I don't think arc'teryx was actually intended to be fashionable (primarily) so yes, it definitely works as advertised.  Undercover, Stone Island etc are fashion brands so I'd also be curious to hear how they perform.

post #63047 of 103563
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Originally Posted by snake View Post

From a recent PM, I've begun thinking about how technical outerwear (Undercover, Acronym, Stone Island, Arc’teryx Veilance) might fare in the weather conditions they were designed for. I'm curious to hear from any of you with experience or knowledge from these labels if they actually hold up and work as advertised (or have made a significant improvement) in inclement weather conditions or if those technical features/details is just marketing.
I think I should conduct a test the next time I go mountaineering. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

Please don't.

When you go above Columbia level tech brand, its just the matter of brand name and the "little attention to details" bs. I found my friend's SI jacket poor in construction (not talking about seam tape porn here) and durability compared to regular North Face stuffs.

As for Canada Goose, I am going to call them today because of their cheap zipper that snapped when I was boxing it. uhoh.gif
post #63048 of 103563
veilance is supposed to be heavy duty stuff.
they have a line called "leaf" which is made for the military, iirc.

i dont hike or mountaineer btw, just my 2 chainz cents
post #63049 of 103563
I guess Arc’teryx Veilance doesn't belong on that list since I've seen them sold at outdoor shops. I'm always a little skeptical when fashion labels tout their garments as somehow technically advanced. I really doubt there would be any significant difference, though I'm still intrigued...
post #63050 of 103563
leave the experimenting for someone else. we dont want to find poor snakey frozen atop a mountain in stone island shadow project!!
post #63051 of 103563
fyi tilak is da bomb.. acronym bought them after their first season or(im pretty sure) so and use them for their production. tilak was the czech government's before afaik.

http://www.tilak.cz/
post #63052 of 103563
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Originally Posted by snake View Post

I guess Arc’teryx Veilance doesn't belong on that list since I've seen them sold at outdoor shops. I'm always a little skeptical when fashion labels tout their garments as somehow technically advanced. I really doubt there would be any significant difference, though I'm still intrigued...

I forget where it is, but look for the tech outerwear threads on here and sufu. the main guy from acronym has stated that veilance is the number one tech brand and has been the main influence on the more fashionable tech brands. I remember reading that the brand had gone through changes in ownership though so ymmv. 

post #63053 of 103563
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Originally Posted by snowmanxl View Post

leave the experimenting for someone else. we dont want to find poor snakey frozen atop a mountain in stone island shadow project!!

heh true true

find me in my heat reactive jacket
post #63054 of 103563
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Originally Posted by thisisblex View Post

I forget where it is, but look for the tech outerwear threads on here and sufu. the main guy from acronym has stated that veilance is the number one tech brand and has been the main influence on the more fashionable tech brands. I remember reading that the brand had gone through changes in ownership though so ymmv. 
http://www.styleforum.net/t/301652/technical-outerwear

yeah, errolson hughes is also canadian biggrin.gif
post #63055 of 103563
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Originally Posted by ceoceo View Post

Please don't.
When you go above Columbia level tech brand, its just the matter of brand name and the "little attention to details" bs. I found my friend's SI jacket poor in construction (not talking about seam tape porn here) and durability compared to regular North Face stuffs.
As for Canada Goose, I am going to call them today because of their cheap zipper that snapped when I was boxing it. uhoh.gif

To be fair, stone island mainline is a fashion brand. Shadow project is likely to be of higher construction level.

I've no first hand experience with shadow project, veilance or acronym but I believe that these 3 are made to the same standards as act'ryx (I never remember how to spell it) which should be good enough since it's an outdoor brand.

Most of the technical considerations, aside from the fabric, are about making the jacket lighter in weight.

I wouldn't hesitate using my Ma.strum jacket on the mountain. Then again, my belief is that none of these extremely high "quality" outdoor gear brands are more than marginally better than the mid-range stuff. As long as you're getting a waterproof-breathable fabric, have enough room for some warm layering underneath, and have plenty of pockets and easy movement, I'd say it'll be fine.
post #63056 of 103563
from the sisp stuff ive handled it felt really well made and can pass as veilance. same ykk aqua zips on some pices.
well thought out material. BONDED seems to be their favourite word lol.



anyone order from isaac reina directly? can you order from past seasons? asking because the website still lists prices for previous seasons, up to a certain point.
fuuma? hoping you might know the answer to this random question!!
post #63057 of 103563
Veilance took like seven years or something to develop their first gore-tex jackets, so yeah, I guess they perform for holding out rain. Although I would never go out hiking in for example their field jacket, as it's intended for "urban wear", which means biking around all year etc. Also, the drawstring that is supposed to regulate body heat is in normal outdoors jackets found near the sternum and at waist level, which is not the case for Veilance where it is located only at the sternum to allow movement when biking. Which in case makes the Field Jacket useless for winter use IMO, unless you are using their own insulator.
post #63058 of 103563
Most fashion brands just focus on the details... the whole point of Arc'teryx Veilance was to use superior construction and an absence of those frivolous details. The focus was just on muted technical perfection. It only caught on in the internet fashion world because of a) the name (seriously, veilance just fits in with the whole tech/goth ninja hybrid aesthetic), and b) the quality/price point of their jackets was the highest of anything not made by gaudy Moncler; it was simply a whole other level (rightfully so, Veilance stuff is unparalleled in the attention to detail and the quality of fabric).

This is also why most outdoor enthusiasts buy Arc'teryx stuff - compared to the Columbia/TNF/whatever else, Arc'teryx is just on a whole other level with fabric technology and construction. My family and I have always been avid outdoors people, and we've sworn by Arc'teryx stuff for decades (so perhaps I am a bit biased), but my dad's Sidewinder ski jacket from the 90's is still in pristine condition, and all the zippers/seams are basically new.
post #63059 of 103563
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Originally Posted by snowmanxl View Post

http://www.styleforum.net/t/301652/technical-outerwear
yeah, errolson hughes is also canadian biggrin.gif

I knew we had a thread somewhere. Thanks.
post #63060 of 103563
It's more like UC doesn't belong on that list than the other way around, Veilance and Acronym (and Shadow to an extent) aren't fahsion brands, Isaora feels like a fashion brand on the other hand. I don't know if Veilance would perform better than other top outdoor brands in the great wild (I wouldn't use Acronym which is clearly designed for other purposes), but that's not really the point of the brand, that's not really the appeal.
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