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Originally Posted by thewho13 View Post

This is actually a popular misconception. Which see: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.fr/2006/11/obesity-paradox-1.html
I also recall reading an article in Macleans stating being skinnier leads to a healthier and longer life (135 skinny). And chinese are statistically known to live the longest and how many fat chinese do you see?
post #58667 of 109053
are you trying to say that obesity doesn't lower your life expectancy and isn't a risk factor for lots of diseases?
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Read the study carefully.  It says that fat people are more likely to survive invasive procedures related to heart disease.  Since the study was only done on 130,139 heart disease patients not on the general population it comes to a flawed conclusion.  Since thin people are FAR less likely to have heart disease than fat people in the first place they are also less likely to die from it.

 

Was that a troll or did you just read the title?

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This is actually a popular misconception. Which see: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.fr/2006/11/obesity-paradox-1.html
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In the end we're all just ticking time bombs that could go off at any moment, skinny or obese.
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This is actually a popular misconception. Which see: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.fr/2006/11/obesity-paradox-1.html

For someone who posts with the tone of an intellectual it's pretty surprising to see you posting a blog with no properly cited sources as evidence. The first link is broken and the last two only go to a website's homepage - no specific article. Furthermore, it's VERY selective. I'm not going to go into a lot of depth but it's a poor argument. Obesity is associated with tons more health problems. I honestly can't believe we're discussing this. I'm done for the night.
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(philosophers) boxing[1].gif (mathematical proof)

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For someone who posts with the tone of an intellectual it's pretty surprising to see you posting a blog with no properly cited sources as evidence. The first link is broken and the last two only go to a website's homepage - no specific article. Furthermore, it's VERY selective. I'm not going to go into a lot of depth but it's a poor argument. Obesity is associated with tons more health problems. I honestly can't believe we're discussing this. I'm done for the night.
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I'm just trying to say that there's nothing wrong with being fat and healthy, or having a body-shape that doesn't match up with Kate Moss.


brb bulking to 20% bf because its healthy.

wait wut?
post #58673 of 109053
This is what happens when people in humanities try to read/find scientific evidence. You end up with misleadingly titled blog posts instead of actual published studies and papers.

Fat people are unattractive and unhealthy - who cares.
Sexy women are effective marketing - who cares.

Is any of that earth shattering? Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "damn I wish I was a fatty who dated a people-of-Walmart woman".
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Hey! Economics is a humanity!

 

But yeah leave it to the philosophers and sociologists to not even bother reading statistics or finding their provenance.

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This is what happens when people in humanities try to read/find scientific evidence. You end up with misleadingly titled blog posts instead of actual published studies and papers.
Fat people are unattractive and unhealthy - who cares.
Sexy women are effective marketing - who cares.
Is any of that earth shattering? Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "damn I wish I was a fatty who dated a people-of-Walmart woman".
post #58675 of 109053
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Originally Posted by cyc wid it View Post

This is what happens when people in humanities try to read/find scientific evidence. You end up with misleadingly titled blog posts instead of actual published studies and papers.
Fat people are unattractive and unhealthy - who cares.
Sexy women are effective marketing - who cares.
Is any of that earth shattering? Nobody wakes up in the morning and says "damn I wish I was a fatty who dated a people-of-Walmart woman".

 

This is just ignorant have you ever even taken a humanities class?

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Originally Posted by smashwindow View Post

Read the study carefully.  It says that fat people are more likely to survive invasive procedures related to heart disease.  Since the study was only done on 130,139 heart disease patients not on the general population it comes to a flawed conclusion.  Since thin people are FAR less likely to have heart disease than fat people in the first place they are also less likely to die from it.

Was that a troll or did you just read the title?
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Originally Posted by wurm View Post

For someone who posts with the tone of an intellectual it's pretty surprising to see you posting a blog with no properly cited sources as evidence. The first link is broken and the last two only go to a website's homepage - no specific article. Furthermore, it's VERY selective. I'm not going to go into a lot of depth but it's a poor argument. Obesity is associated with tons more health problems. I honestly can't believe we're discussing this. I'm done for the night.

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(philosophers) boxing%5B1%5D.gif (mathematical proof)

It wasn't a troll post, and I'm curious as to why you think that 100,000+ people doesn't constitute a sufficient sample size. In any case, you both are right when you point out what's lacking in that article, namely, non-broken links as sources. I'm a bit embarrassed that is the case, so I'll go find something more professionally done, and therefore more (I hope) stable.

Going back a little bit, I think that Teger and I might have wound up discussing two different things (as brad mentioned). "Obesity," however problematically that is defined, usually refers to a condition in which an individual does not exercise and does not eat healthfully. That is definitely unhealthy, no questions on my part. Being overweight, however, is not necessarily unhealthy. That seems to be counterintuitive to a lot of you, so, assuming this is still worthwhile to think about beyond this particular moment, I can look for something (professionally done) that can explain what that means.

Last time I'm linking to a fucking blog post, goddammit. facepalm.gif
post #58677 of 109053

I agree with him premise but not its totality.  Most humanities business, lit, languages, foreign affairs, history, poly sci, geography, philosophy, religion probably not too well versed in logic and statistics.  Econ and psych tend to use logic and stats pretty regularly though.


 

This is just ignorant have you ever even taken a humanities class?

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I think there's a tendency to blame advertisers/designers for what they're doing, whether it's Tom Ford or something else. But while they may be at fault, what they're doing actually reflects on a much deeper social reality that (for reasons that may or may not be unfair) privileges certain body types over others.

TL:DR Advertisers are often simply tapping into this social awareness, rather than creating it themselves.

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it's a self perpetuating cycle. by 'tapping into' the social awareness they're reinforcing it. the buck stops somewhere, and for me it stop with advertisers.
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This is just ignorant have you ever even taken a humanities class?

Yep, easy A's nod[1].gif And I suppose I should have stated "a vast majority of people in humanities", but smash got my drift.
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