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post #58621 of 109053

What. EG sizing seems like it starts at 18" p2p

post #58622 of 109053
eg is big in the chest and narrow in the shoulders. i fit a m in the chest/waist but it's way too small in the shoulders/necks and it looks short overall. if i size up to a L, the neck/shoulders/length work, but the waist is really big.

eg is honestly made for either big dudes or tiny japanese guys. frown.gif inventory has a decent lookbook type deal, and the guy who wears eg is like 6'1 220 and it looks good on him and he's wearing a L.
post #58623 of 109053

I guess I don't really understand why using sex in advertising in fashion is misogynist.  

post #58624 of 109053
I'm 6'2" 182ish with extremely broad shoulders and a 33" waist and I look great in EG Large. I guess it depends on how you want it to fit though. The typical eg look is very roomy in the midsection, but that tends to be very flattering in motion even though it seems weird at first.
post #58625 of 109053

objectification?

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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

I guess I don't really understand why using sex in advertising in fashion is misogynist.  

post #58626 of 109053

Just looked at sizing at inventory and it's puzzled.gif. 16" S2S with 20" P2P is wicked weird. Don't really 'get' it I guess

post #58627 of 109053

Daiki sizes clothes for himself and he's kind of pear shaped.

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Originally Posted by Urthwhyte View Post

Just looked at sizing at inventory and it's puzzled.gif. 16" S2S with 20" P2P is wicked weird. Don't really 'get' it I guess

post #58628 of 109053
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Originally Posted by Fycus View Post

I'm 6'2" 182ish with extremely broad shoulders and a 33" waist and I look great in EG Large. I guess it depends on how you want it to fit though. The typical eg look is very roomy in the midsection, but that tends to be very flattering in motion even though it seems weird at first.

id love to see some pics. i have weird proportions - 18.5" shoulders, 40" chest, 33" waist, 16.75" neck.

this is a look where i think EG looks good:

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and sadly EG doesn't fit me like that frown.gif that dude is like 35 lbs heavier than me but probably the same shoulder measurement/height.

for example, this is probably the closest I get:

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the shirt is pretty slim and is still biggish in the waist. much slimmer than EG.
post #58629 of 109053
that first dude really doesn't look that good. don't have time to find my favorite EG esque looks but here are a few

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it seems to me to look best on skinny people where the garments are loose. if you're bigger the garments look too fitted and you lose out on the whole point.
post #58630 of 109053
yea i love the asian EG look, but that's simply not my body type. i think eg looks best on someone who's about 5'8 and 140 lbs.

edit: i dont want to sound like im whining about my body type -- im pretty happy. other than real slim pants, i can wear mostly anything, and my build is really suited to formal/tailored wear.
post #58631 of 109053
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

I guess I don't really understand why using sex in advertising in fashion is misogynist.  

You don't understand how using naked, impossibly attractive women as objects in order to sell a men's luxury clothing line is misogynist?
post #58632 of 109053
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post


You don't understand how using naked, impossibly attractive women as objects in order to sell a men's luxury clothing line is misogynist?

 

I phrased that badly in that I understand where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree.  I'd have to think on it more.  But no one complains when the reverse happens (naked men for dolce and gabbana cologne ads, etc etc).  Fashion in a lot of ways is fundamentally about sex (especially for someone like Tom Ford) so I don't think it's offensive to be direct about that in advertising, in this case.

 

I don't really have the theoretical vocabulary to back this viewpoint up, though.  Maybe I'll look into it tomorrow.  I'm just not really convinced that presenting sex as an idea in an ad is objectifying anyone.

post #58633 of 109053
fwiw, id rather have people associating thin with beauty than dropping dead at 45 of heart attacks because they weigh 500 lbs. ive always felt there's a disconnect between 'the media creates an impossible standard of beauty that distorts women's ability to judge themselves' and 'america is obese'.
post #58634 of 109053
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

I phrased that badly in that I understand where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree.  I'd have to think on it more.  But no one complains when the reverse happens (naked men for dolce and gabbana cologne ads, etc etc).  Fashion in a lot of ways is fundamentally about sex (especially for someone like Tom Ford) so I don't think it's offensive to be direct about that in advertising, in this case.

I don't really have the theoretical vocabulary to back this viewpoint up, though.  Maybe I'll look into it tomorrow.  I'm just not really convinced that presenting sex as an idea in an ad is objectifying anyone.

first, lots of people complain that the media creates an impossible standard of beauty for both men AND women

and brad's point is that that ad creates the perception that that women, who is impossibly thin and photoshopped and likely an unhealthy 100 lb model whose diet consists of cigarettes and diet coke, is the standard of beauty. it's destructive.
post #58635 of 109053
i guess you could say that the disconnect falls on socioeconomic lines. poor people are more likely to be fat and are less exposed to media? i dont know. correlation and causation and all that.
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