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But it requires a data connection, which is $$$ or a foreign sim, so how does it improve anything?

I use iMessage and Skype for the same thing daily, to communicate with people on the other side of the globe.

Any links to those articles?
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I've never used or read up on WhatsApp, but how does it differ from other chatting services like KakaoTalk or LINE?
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different user base. i've never used LINE, but its not full of other shit like kakaotalk
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I've never used or read up on WhatsApp, but how does it differ from other chatting services like KakaoTalk or LINE?

A much larger and different userbase.  Also, without all of the random shit, has more potential for growth.

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I use WhatsApp to have group chats with friends, but I kind of hate it. Really annoying that the newly-launched web interface doesn't work for iPhone users in particular.

I think it could be worth $19 billion someday though, which is all that matters. It would be stupid to think that Facebook bought WhatsApp with no clue as to what they want to do with it.
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But it requires a data connection, which is $$$ or a foreign sim, so how does it improve anything?

I use iMessage and Skype for the same thing daily, to communicate with people on the other side of the globe.

Any links to those articles?

Because it's still way cheaper that $1/text.

 

Skype is really much more complicated, and doesn't work well on all devices.  

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I use WhatsApp to have group chats with friends, but I kind of hate it. Really annoying that the newly-launched web interface doesn't work for iPhone users in particular.

I think it could be worth $19 billion someday though, which is all that matters. It would be stupid to think that Facebook bought WhatsApp with no clue as to what they want to do with it.

Well, I hate FB, and never use it (FB keeps on prompting me). I'd much rather discuss things I find interesting and care about here than talk random bullshit and here real time updates of my friends and family's boring lives.

 

I also never use Whatsapp though I have it downloaded.  I used old school chat rooms back in the day, and sort of graduate from those to more long form conversations, like we have here.  For quick chats, I just use google chat.  Anyone I really want to/need to chat with are on there anyway.

 

But I can see the potential.

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My logic fails me completely when it comes to apps and non physical products, I understand why a MBP is worth more than an Acer etc., but I don't understand the whole app game, I think its partly due to, I don't understand the need for whatsapp, when iMessage essentially does the same thing and my phone already has that.

 

 

Think about poorer regions with limited access. Whatsapp is entirely device agnostic, iMessage is not.

 

Hell, millions of people who use Facebook don't know that they're using the internet.

 

http://qz.com/333313/milliions-of-facebook-users-have-no-idea-theyre-using-the-internet/

 

 

Good article on the value of Whatsapp to FB: http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/19/crazy-like-a-facebook-fox/

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Because it's still way cheaper that $1/text.

Skype is really much more complicated, and doesn't work well on all devices.  

But is it though?

Pretty much everyone I know have some sort of apple device, so sitting on a wifi connection in Ulaanbaatar, your text costs exactly the same with WhatsApp, Skype and iMessage and I can make video and phone calls with one of them.


Just read @iamacyborg link and the investment makes sense, when you add the banking part to the equation, as that can be a cash cow like no other, the transfer fees alone, also lol at people not knowing they are on the internet while browsing facebook.
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But is it though?

Pretty much everyone I know have some sort of apple device, so sitting on a wifi connection in Ulaanbaatar, your text costs exactly the same with WhatsApp, Skype and iMessage and I can make video and phone calls with one of them.


Just read @iamacyborg link and the investment makes sense, when you add the banking part to the equation, as that can be a cash cow like no other, the transfer fees alone, also lol at people not knowing they are on the internet while browsing facebook.

You've committed one of the most common logical fallacies; "everyone I know has an apple device, therefore everyone in the world does too". It is simply not true. Many people have smart phones that aren't produced by Apple or they don't have smart phones at all.  Don't assume everyone has $200 to spend on a luxury item like a touch screen phone with apps and games. I'm not super familiar with WhatsApp, I have never used it before. However, I live in a city with many internationals from all over (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, China, Pakistan, Vietnam etc.) and it is very popular among those groups and I'm assuming it is in their home countries as well. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if WhatsApp is providing value for its consumers. The fact is that people are perceiving it to be valuable, so it is. That doesn't mean that is logical, however it is the reality of it.

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Think about poorer regions with limited access. Whatsapp is entirely device agnostic, iMessage is not.

 

Good article on the value of Whatsapp to FB: http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/19/crazy-like-a-facebook-fox/

I remember that, good article. 

 

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But is it though?

Pretty much everyone I know have some sort of apple device, so sitting on a wifi connection in Ulaanbaatar, your text costs exactly the same with WhatsApp, Skype and iMessage and I can make video and phone calls with one of them.

Just read @iamacyborg link and the investment makes sense, when you add the banking part to the equation, as that can be a cash cow like no other, the transfer fees alone, also lol at people not knowing they are on the internet while browsing facebook.
I don't use an iPhone, and Android is by far a more popular platform: 
But because iPhone users are both generally affluent and active, they get a lot of attention.  I personally, welcome more and more iOS users to Styleforum.  The revenues per user are just considerably better.  However, while there is still growth in that market, the real immediate and long term potential is in less developed areas.  Think of how much more use Whatsapp could be in Africa or large chunks of Asia.  And if it can get a toehold on areas where the online payments have not been already claimed by Paypal, well, you can imagine.
Also, so that no one gets things twisted, cloning a piece of successfuly technology AND having it catch on is not easy.  It's easy to say, yes.  It's very hard to do. About 5-6 years ago, I was tapped to look at the viability of a Paypal like thing that VISA wanted to create, because, you know, Paypal is killing it.  It either died on the vine, or has the same market share as Window's mobile operation system.  
Re. non-physical products - that's typically my main focus, a few pairs of boots and some fun projects (Monitaly, woot!) excluded.  It's really exciting.  You can create capital out of, virtually (I apologize for that) nothing, and that is tied to nothing outside of the internet. That, that is pretty amazing
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Incidentally, because I linked to Quartz earlier, they posted this great article earlier about the rise of premium sweatpants.

 

http://qz.com/355231/behind-the-pricetag-on-these-800-sweatpants/

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Dennis Kozlowski and Ja Rule became best friends in jail. Mind blown.
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Prison is like linkedin for criminals.



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You've committed one of the most common logical fallacies; "everyone I know has an apple device, therefore everyone in the world does too". It is simply not true. Many people have smart phones that aren't produced by Apple or they don't have smart phones at all.  Don't assume everyone has $200 to spend on a luxury item like a touch screen phone with apps and games. I'm not super familiar with WhatsApp, I have never used it before. However, I live in a city with many internationals from all over (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, China, Pakistan, Vietnam etc.) and it is very popular among those groups and I'm assuming it is in their home countries as well. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if WhatsApp is providing value for its consumers. The fact is that people are perceiving it to be valuable, so it is. That doesn't mean that is logical, however it is the reality of it.

Maybe I explained it wrongly, but apple to apple communications don't need the app and in their target audience, they hold a big market share, especially in the more affluent parts of the developed part of the world.




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I'm fully aware of that, but like you mention iDevice users are more affluent, so they can spend more money, which a lot of business have worked out and therefor charge more, if you look a product up via an apple product.

The article mentioned that Asia has its own much more developed competitor to whatsapp, so their primary growth potential will be in Africa and South America.


I don't why the content of your posts isn't there Fok.
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