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As a Chinese guy, I don't understand pets at all, or why some animals are okay to eat/use, and others are not.  I can respect that though.  I know horse people who would quake at the idea of shell cordovan or horse leather jackets.  

One thing that I will not apologize for is that the term "pet parent" makes me laugh.

Yeah there's so many of those fucking obnoxious pet people in the bay area. Horses are delicious.
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i love my cats but i could respect a man who ate a cat
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Just saw that graphic youtube video on "dog leather" I had no idea dogs were used in leather gloves, shoes, belts etc


As a dog lover I was not prepared for that
As a Chinese guy, I don't understand pets at all, or why some animals are okay to eat/use, and others are not.  I can respect that though.  I know horse people who would quake at the idea of shell cordovan or horse leather jackets.  

One thing that I will not apologize for is that the term "pet parent" makes me laugh.

Oh I realize my hypocrisy since I eat meat (cows are treated much worse) and generally laugh at those naked PETA ads and what not, but man it was hard to see the video. I can understand if a dog is put down humanely why waste the pelt when there is apparent market but....

If you can skip past all the don't wear leather pc stuff, the way the dogs are taken out is what got to me
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Oh I realize my hypocrisy since I eat meat (cows are treated much worse) and generally laugh at those naked PETA ads and what not, but man it was hard to see the video. I can understand if a dog is put down humanely why waste the pelt when there is apparent market but....

If you can skip past all the don't wear leather pc stuff, the way the dogs are taken out is what got to me

I obviously wear leather, but it kind of annoys me that any kind of animal rights argument has to be put down beforehand. Like PETA is crazy, or that "don't wear leather" is a "PC" argument. Or that anyone who believes you shouldn't eat meat or wear leather necessarily has to be a hippie. Etc etc etc.

There are really good arguments for animal rights. Why people need to dismiss it as crazy seems weird. Peter Singer has written a lot of good philosophical work on this. It's not that wacky of a philosophical argument ...

(Incidentally, my cat bag video posted above was meant as a joke).
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this brings me to the question: Could you eat vegetable tanned leather? whats the nutritional value of Rick Owens hammered lamb vs. oiled calf??
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saw peter singer speak a few months ago and he wouldn't shut up about vegetarianism. PETA is crazy because it has to get people's attention to issues that deserve attention but no one cares about.

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saw peter singer speak a few months ago and he wouldn't shut up about vegetarianism. PETA is crazy because it has to get people's attention for issues that deserve attention but no one cares about.

Not sure what you expected from a Peter Singer talk. He's most known for his books on animal rights and poverty. The second is kind of a new one, although he's been writing about it since the '70s. Recently got turned into a pop-philosophy book for the general public.
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expected more philosophy less book tour talk but I think he was invited to talk about food or something, idk just expected more from a world class intellectual.

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expected more philosophy less book tour talk but I think he was invited to talk about food or something, idk just expected more from a world class intellectual.

Much of his view on animal rights might seem passe and unoriginal now because his book (Animal Liberation) literally set the tone of a lot of today's argument back in 1975. He created the secularist, utilitarian view of animal rights (as we discuss it today).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_(book)

A lot of people have critiqued the book on its own utilitarianism ground (Martha Nassbaum wrote the argument I summarized above, about how rights should be tied to capabilities or intelligence), but Singer still did a remarkable job at setting the grounds for an entire field of discussion.

I studied for a semester at Princeton. The professor I was most excited to meet was Peter Singer, but he was unfortunately on sabbatical when I was there.
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Yeah there's so many of those fucking obnoxious pet people in the bay area. Horses are delicious.


Just got some horse jerky, meat bits thing from the Mongolian chick I'm dating. Didn't try it myself and passed it along to my dad, he said it was a horrible experience and he's the kind of guy that could put down anything. He has ate horse before.
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i like nussbaum, probably my fav contemporary philosopher but I like her Greek stuff the best.

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I obviously wear leather, but it kind of annoys me that any kind of animal rights argument has to be put down beforehand. Like PETA is crazy, or that "don't wear leather" is a "PC" argument. Or that anyone who believes you shouldn't eat meat or wear leather necessarily has to be a hippie. Etc etc etc.

There are really good arguments for animal rights. Why people need to dismiss it as crazy seems weird. Peter Singer has written a lot of good philosophical work on this. It's not that wacky of a philosophical argument ...

(Incidentally, my cat bag video posted above was meant as a joke).

 

There are actually people saying "don't wear leather"? I mean, I understand someone saying "don't eat meat", but leather is just a byproduct, isn't it. No one raises cattle or horses for leather.

 

Unless they mean "exotic" leathers or fur where animals are actually killed for their skin. I wouldn't wear any of these myself, but I'm ok with calf or horse leather.

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Well if people stopped eating meat and the only reason to kill animals was the skin, I'm pretty sure they'd be killed for it.
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Cool junya pants that @Parker inspired me to buy turned out 3 sizes too small. I wonder who wears a 28 inch waist and has stick thin legs here.. Yahoo jp fail frown.gif
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You could cut them up and use them as patches for jeans that fit.
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