Random fashion thoughts

I was just deleting really old PMs.

Do Jufros, Black Cherry and Warlock still exist on the site?



DLester said:

yes no airports there. They duct tape your parcel to a frog, that swims to the far away land of Ile-de-France

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Well that was an embarrassing lapse



skitlets said:

Synth can move to Japan with Drew and handle the shoe line.

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there is room downstairs for a short term collaborator



systematic said:

Yes, but the driving force is ultimately what he sells. If his jackets were ****, no one would discuss them and they certainly wouldn't care about his insight about how they're made.

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This is an incredibly simplistic view of marketing-- "people buy what they do because the product is great quality and meets their needs".

Consider my previous SUV popularity analogy. Most SUV purchasers claimed the main reason they bought their SUV was due to the product's tangible qualities-- e.g. extra space, seeing over traffic, etc. Yet multiple automotive marketers have publicly stated this is not the purchaser's real motivation. And most people I know who bought these huge vehicles no longer saw the value in the behemoths once the trend had run its course.

Likewise everyone on this forum is following clothing trends (i.e. a slave to popularity) to some degree. But in the case of TOJ leathers it is largely an on-line popularity people are following, not one of their peers. In the US I don't see many younger guys wearing leather jackets, especially the DR type that drew is commonly selling. And in the rare event I actually spy someone wearing a DR, they'll invariably a be baby boomer who comes off looking like a burnt out rocker or harley rider.

I suspect that for the majority of DR purchasers their jacket does not fit in with their peer group at all. This can be seen by viewing the fit pics of purchasers-- the majority dress in a very safe and conventional manner. Had they not experienced the popularity on this forum, they would have never bought one since outside of this forum the popular image of such a jacket is somewhat tainted. This also explains the "Fonzie" comments that occasionally surface.

BTW, this is in no way a criticism of the TOJ product itself. Drew is doing a fine job at doing his thing. All the fans are proof enough of that.

Teger said:

i like toj and drew and all but that thread is ******* hilarious. 'i'm gonna make jeans!' *no description of the fit, cut, materials, weight, color, etc* 50 people: "OMG I CAN'T WAIT TO BUY!!"

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Nope, no fan boy club here. There is a striking similarity between possible TOJ products and that of anticipated Apple product launches. In both cases the fans get excited about the unveiling of the unknown.

Oh, and the iPod has kinda poor sound quality. That's why I don't own one.

you are making a very poor analogy between trends in motor vehicles and trends in luxury clothing.

so i just bought some cheap yuks for summer wear, but i need a shoe to swap them out with.

what should i get?

my thoughts so far:

* try to buy some really cheap CPs, but I dunno... never been that comfortable
* cheap mocs from ll bean signature that i can trash
* some sort of vintage style canvas nikes. tennis lows?

im on my feet maybe 6 hours a day so i need something comfortable

some Nike Frees or NB

The Apple analogy is probably better, and for example:

I have about 10 Apple things in my home. They are not necessary, but they fill a purpose. I don't line up for them or speculate on technical specifics or even really care, but I buy what is new when I need something and that is that, they facilitate some sort of work/communication for me - I don't think that really amounts to fanboyism, despite the gross number of Apple things that I have. If they weren't Apple, they'd be something else, but I grew up having an Apple in my home since the mid-80's and don't know how to use Windows, and don't really need to.

The difference here is, I have like 5 iPhones, but they're for 3 different' countries, two are for her, we have Macbooks to use all the time, I have an iPad, I have a mac mini on my TV, I picked up the Airport express because it was convenient at the time - they're all for very different purposes and used as such. This is in contrast to NAMOR, for example, who bought 15 pairs of C+J's, 15 pairs of Aldens, 4 pairs of Lobbs, 4 pairs of Gaziano and Girlings, etc, etc - if you want a car analogy for that, it's like I have a garage with many different types of cars, an SUV, a 4 door sedan, a small lightweight track car, a larger sports GT, etc. NAMOR has a garage with 30 Ferrari 360's in different colors and trim levels.

15 pairs of aldens, **** i hope we are exagerrating here



BB1 said:

I suspect that for the majority of DR purchasers their jacket does not fit in with their peer group at all.

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Most males who are interested in clothing probably do not fit in with their peer group with respect to that issue. That includes you too amirite?

re: Fonzie----yes some people think that is a hilarious thing to say. But why? That fonzie program has been off the air for 30-40 years. Anyone who calls you fonzie is a brainless dickweed.



Lane said:

15 pairs of aldens, **** i hope we are exagerrating here

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nope - actually it was 16 (though apparently he sold some of them)... http://www.styleforum.net/t/280876/your-best-worst-purchases-of-2011/45#post_5080854

e: ^^^ oh there it is

Lane said:

15 pairs of aldens, **** i hope we are exagerrating here

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I can't be arsed to find the post where NAMOR listed all the **** he bought in 2011, but that's not an exaggeration. It had to be at least $30k worth of clothes. And I think he posted the list before he went full marsupial on the Mr. Porter sale.

yea its bad

anyway this is my shoe wardrobe! built over the past 4 years

blue new balances
2 pairs of cheapo GATs, one beat to ****, one still painful to wear tight (the new made ones are really tight)
3 pairs of aldens - no 8 shell cap toes, brown barrie lasted chukka, j crew x alden snuff suede crepe boot
buttero brown boots
ll bean katahdins
clarks DBs in sand suede
2 pairs of seavee plimsols - grey and navy
filippa k desert boots in grey suede
yuketen sand suede ranger mocs on a crepe sole
sperry boat shoes
sperry boat chukkas

what makes me happy is that i only paid retail for 3 items - the sperry boat shoes 4 years ago, the alden barrie chukkas 3 years ago and the clarks

best deal was the alden cap toes. thrifted for $3 ^_^



Meis said:

nope - actually it was 16 (though apparently he sold some of them)... http://www.styleforum.net/t/280876/your-best-worst-purchases-of-2011/45#post_5080854

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10 Aldens, 9 C&J, 1 G&G, 4 Lobb, 2 Trickers.

This is not too much.



very casual selection, but these will go well with your style.

i was doing some quick bullshit math it it's a lot more than 30k. those aldens are pretty much never on sale, so conservatively that's like 6k right there. i mean more power to NAMOR, but the only fit pics ive ever seen him are random button down + RRL chinos...